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ZeeD
2010-01-19, 20:52
Some users of n900 have a problem pressing Reject button instead of Answer. Especially when they operate by one hand or in gloves.
In portrait mode those buttons are split horizontally so many people accidentally press Reject button.

Here is a bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5982

Here is a brainstorm link http://maemo.org/community/brainstorm/view/change_ui_for_incoming_call_in_portrait_mode-split_answer_and_reject_buttons

Helmuth
2010-01-19, 21:19
Thanks for your work and the mockup of the UI changes. It illustrates very good what you want. :)

But there is already a Brainstorm (http://maemo.org/community/brainstorm/view/actions_when_device_is_locked_and_a_event_like_ale art-alarm_or_call_happens/)for this issue. Here is the TALK (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=40872)

It belongs not only to the problem with calls, but also to events like alarms and alearts (at example from the calendar).

In my opinion we have not only a problem with calls, we have a problem with all events that unlock the device itself!

Would you add your Idea's there or shoult we keep up several Brainstorms for each Application?
Could a Moderator merge this?

I would love a Device wide solution more than a totally different handling on application level.

ZeeD
2010-01-20, 09:15
In my opinion we have not only a problem with calls, we have a problem with all events that unlock the device itself!

Would you add your Idea's there or shoult we keep up several Brainstorms for each Application? Could a Moderator merge this?


I agree with you that there is a problem with unlocked device during incoming calls/events and I would like to have a SWIPE option to answer/reject a call instead of present UI.

I made that brainstorm because Nokia do not want to change device behaviour/UI so may be Nokia will make some better usability for their users of n900?

You can add those "solution pictures" from my brainstorm to yours as the owner and then I will delete my brainstorm or just add those "solution pictures" and leave my brainstorm as a separate instance, but before that it would be nice/helpful to hear a word from Nokia developers on those brainstorms:)

Helmuth
2010-01-20, 10:21
Yes, I know. A Slider would be perfect. I hope we could get a fast solution. :(

But it should be possible to easily silent a call. (with a big and large Button) - Imagine, you're sitting in a meeting or in a cinema and you need 3 try's to cancel the call. :o It's even harder to swipe (or wipe) a Button on the touchscreen instead of only touch it.

For the two Brainstorms:
It should be possible for you to add your own solution on the Brainstorm from a other person.
You can simply try it. If it fails, it is simple to edit or delete it. (for you, I can't edit or delete the Ideas from a other person)

I would propose (your Ideas are very similar) summarize your 2 Solution to one "just enlarge the space between the 2 Buttons" with 2 examples how it could be implemented. (please use smaller images)
But I'm afraid. This wouldn't help when you have to pull your Device somewhere out. :(
It's only a small workaround. But not really a solution. :(
If you want I can do this for you. But it is still your Idea, so it could be better when you do it yourself. :)

If you satisfied with the migration you could delete the 2 solutions on your Brainstorm and edit the Headline with a redirection Link to the other (generic) Brainstorm.

It would be nice to hear the opinion from a Moderator. Is it okay to keep a Brainstorm with a redirection link?

ZeeD
2010-01-20, 12:14
Ok, lets wait some time for a Moderator's opinion on how to merge 2 brainstorms and leave one of these as a link to another brainstorm.
If nobody answer you will just add my pictures as an another solution for your brainstorm and I will leave my brainstorm with the link to yours.

Helmuth
2010-01-20, 16:11
Ok, lets wait some time for a Moderator's opinion on how to merge 2 brainstorms and leave one of these as a link to another brainstorm.
If nobody answer you will just add my pictures as an another solution for your brainstorm and I will leave my brainstorm with the link to yours.

Here we've got two answers: Flandry (http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=484213&postcount=47) (Moderator) Texrat (http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=484400&postcount=17) (Council *g :D)

Summary: "Do and decide it yourself." :(

So, please have a look on Solution #5 (http://maemo.org/community/brainstorm/view/actions_when_device_is_locked_and_a_event_like_ale art-alarm_or_call_happens/). Is this acceptable? Do you want something changed?

When you add a redirection link. Please ensure everyone can find it fast. :)

ZeeD
2010-01-21, 09:19
Thanks Helmuth, take a look please
http://maemo.org/community/brainstorm/view/change_ui_for_incoming_call_in_portrait_mode-split_answer_and_reject_buttons/
Is it ok for a redirection to your brainstorm?
Feel free to add/edit this brainstorm.

The Solution #5 in your brainstorm is very good, thank you for your consideration:)

onutz
2010-01-26, 19:28
I understood "Solution #1: swipe for a action" is a WONTIX from Nokia, why is it still present as a solution?

Another workaround would be the call / calendar / alarm to trigger secondary event that would superpose a simple slider or a two points consecutive press.
What do you say?

Helmuth
2010-01-27, 12:50
Thanks Helmuth, take a look please
http://maemo.org/community/brainstorm/view/change_ui_for_incoming_call_in_portrait_mode-split_answer_and_reject_buttons/
Is it ok for a redirection to your brainstorm?
Feel free to add/edit this brainstorm.

The Solution #5 in your brainstorm is very good, thank you for your consideration:)

Sorry ZeeD, I missed this post.

I don't think it is good enought. It's not clearly visible that the Brainstorm is closed and merged with a other one. A posibility could be a simple deletion of this Brainstorm. But I would prefer a clear visible redirection and a statement at the top. There are several Links here in this Forum and at Maemo Bugs pointing to this Brainstorm here. With a deleted Brainstorm the other users wouldn't find the new one.

I want to delete Solution #3 when we finished a good redirection. :-)

Helmuth
2010-01-27, 12:53
I understood "Solution #1: swipe for a action" is a WONTIX from Nokia, why is it still present as a solution?


Hello onutz,

I think you mean the other, merged Brainstorm (http://maemo.org/community/brainstorm/view/actions_when_device_is_locked_and_a_event_like_ale art-alarm_or_call_happens/).

I answered your post here in the correct Thread (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=497328). :)

ZeeD
2010-01-27, 13:24
Helmuth,

edit my brainstorm as you wish please.
It will be the most right and fast way to creat a redirection because I don't know how to create redirections:)

Helmuth
2010-01-27, 13:34
edit my brainstorm as you wish please.
It will be the most right and fast way to creat a redirection because I don't know how to create redirections:)

Thy simple reason why I don't do this: I can't! ;)

It's your Brainstorm. You've created it, and actually only you can edit it. (the same reason why you can't edit Solution #3 - I've created it)

Please ad at the Top a fast explanation and a link to the other Brainstorm. Remove the link to Maemo Talk (Brainstorm Discussion) and add there also the link to the other Brainstorm.
And write in Bold letters that this Brainstorm is merged with a other Brainstorm... "please add your solutions there"

I hope it could work this way until we get a renewed Brainstorm system with more possibilitys. :)

ZeeD
2010-01-27, 13:59
Done, have a look please.

Helmuth
2010-01-27, 14:21
Done, have a look please.

Yes, looks good. :)
Thank you.

You was able to delete the solution #3 yourself?
Never known before about this possibility. :)

ZeeD
2010-01-27, 14:44
There are the same icons in front of the every solution, find the screenshot attached please.

Helmuth
2010-01-27, 15:15
There are the same icons in front of the every solution, find the screenshot attached please.

Yes, okay. I see. :)
But this is only for you at this Brainstorm. Because, it's your Brainstorm. You're the original creator.

At a different Brainstorm, at example here: shortcut_to_switch_between_running_applications (http://maemo.org/community/brainstorm/view/shortcut_to_switch_between_running_applications/)

Here I have only the Buttons at Solution #1 to edit and delete.
But, Tasos F. (http://maemo.org/profile/view/lacedaemon/), should be able to edit all of the Solutions in this Brainstorm, because he created it in the beginning.

ZeeD
2010-01-27, 15:20
But this is only for you at this Brainstorm. Because, it's your Brainstorm. You're the original creator.
Yes, you are right! This is why I couldn't add/edit one of the solutions in your brainstorm.