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mscion
2014-01-24, 15:38
See this thread for discussion & help/tips about Sailfish for the N9:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90761

I thought I'd start this thread as the one concerning port to N9 will lose focus if everyone asks/describes port to every known Android device on planet.
Perhaps should focus on Nexus 4 or 7 for now as there has been some progress here. Anyways, I am not expert on this but hope to learn from you all.
Here is a you tube video for a starter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaVAMGv3tI4 Thanks!

LG Nexus 4/7 Samsung GS3:

What we know:

- Work in progress (https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris)
- Installation with CyanogeMod and ClockworkMod (Video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaVAMGv3tI4)
- Video 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEsNZdcw_cU&feature=youtu.be&a)
- 02/21/2014 Jolla announce that Sailfish will be available for Android devices on the first half of 2014 (http://jolla.com/media/documents/MWC_Jolla_announcement_FINAL.pdf)
- First release for Nexus 4 (http://www.jollausers.com/2014/03/sailfish-os-early-adopters-have-got-their-email-to-go-crazy/)

coderus
2014-01-24, 15:44
Jolla not supporting android phones. Sailfish can be ported to android phones. It's two different things.

mscion
2014-01-24, 15:55
Jolla not supporting android phones. Sailfish can be ported to android phones. It's two different things.

Thank you for the correction. I will edit first post.

EDIT: Appears to not be the case. See a few posts down...

mscion
2014-02-11, 14:36
Would you interpret this as good news or bad news in regards to porting Sailfish on android device? I'm not sure, but it seems like they have a ways to go...

https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris

Tujutzki
2014-02-11, 14:52
I would say this counts as confirmed good news: https://twitter.com/HarriHakulinen/status/433163017555959808

flotron
2014-02-11, 15:36
yep, can follow it here https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris

mscion
2014-03-24, 17:14
Here is a link to XDA thread that gives the latest work on porting Sailfish to Nexus 4 (with mention to some other devices). According to OP a not fully working (but getting there!) port will be out this week.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/sailfish-os-progress-nexus-4-t2667622

Dave999
2014-03-24, 17:25
Jolla not supporting android phones. Sailfish can be ported to android phones. It's two different things.

Might be true. Might not be true. Might be partly true or completely false. It will probably be true but you can't be sure. They might select a target device or join up with a vendor and release a dual boot, might find a buissness model that support it...and/or just release a down loadable rom. Please read below...

From jolla, by jolla and acording to jolla:

"Sailfish OS downloadable to existing Android devices

Sailfish OS has been developed to be compatible with commonly available Android hardware platforms. Due to this advanced technology, Jolla is introducing the Sailfish OS experience as downloadable software to devices running Android OS. Users can soon start to enjoy the modern, gesture based Sailfish OS in selected Android devices and also renew the lifecycle of their existing older Android devices.

The Sailfish community has already ported Sailfish OS into several devices including major versions of popular Samsung Galaxy, Google Nexus, and Sony Xperia. Also, porting for highly popular Chinese Xiaomi products is under work in community projects.

In addition, Jolla is releasing its own Sailfish user interface launcher as an Android application, which can be used to simulate the Sailfish OS experience on Android devices. The app will be available for download in the near future from Jolla.com and from common Android market places.

“We see this as a huge volume opportunity for Sailfish OS as there are close to a billion Android users globally. Many of them are looking for new user experiences to freshen up their existing devices. Last year in China alone, about 100 million devices were re-flashed after the purchase with a new operating system. This approach allows Sailfish OS to scale into volume fast without limitations. This is a scaling opportunity in a similar way as we have seen in the mobile gaming industry recently,” Antti Saarnio, Chairman of the Board of Jolla comments.

Jolla will release the downloadable Sailfish OS software in phases during the first half of 2014. First, the UI launcher application is released so users can start to experience the Sailfish user interface in their existing devices running Android OS. Later Android smartphone users can get the full Sailfish OS to their devices."


Dave999's source:
http://jolla.com/media/documents/MWC_Jolla_announcement_FINAL.pdf

you can't argue facts, right ;) just sit tight and you will be able to download full sailfish OS to android devices...

mscion
2014-03-25, 12:03
When you think about it...the launcher should be available any day now...while it's not so important for me I consider it the first important milestone for sail on android hw for users.

Yes. I found it a little confusing in that I thought the launcher was coming out first, then I found the xda post that said the nexus 4 version was coming out this week. I don't mind checking out a new launcher. I currently use 3 that I go between for various reasons. Btw, if you look at the Nexus 7 progress it seems nearly compete and further along than Nexus 4. Would seem to make more sense to release that first... Regardess, I'm still counting down. 20 days until I get my Jolla phone.

flotron
2014-03-25, 14:09
Yes. I found it a little confusing in that I thought the launcher was coming out first, then I found the xda post that said the nexus 4 version was coming out this week. I don't mind checking out a new launcher. I currently use 3 that I go between for various reasons. Btw, if you look at the Nexus 7 progress it seems nearly compete and further along than Nexus 4. Would seem to make more sense to release that first... Regardess, I'm still counting down. 20 days until I get my Jolla phone.

The official "full OS" will be launched after launcher. This week they'll launch the unfinished version for early adopters

mscion
2014-03-27, 05:28
If true this is not so good...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/jolla-sailfish/general/alien-dalvik-licensing-issue-t2694127f

Shadwblade2652
2014-03-27, 06:47
Could this eventually work on my decrepit Samsung Galaxy Player 3.6? It runs Android 2.3 gingerbread and I think Sailfish could possible make it a more usable device again.

Dave999
2014-03-27, 07:52
If true this is not so good...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/jolla-sailfish/general/alien-dalvik-licensing-issue-t2694127f

Expected.but bad either way. Exactly how bad depends on how jolla can get native app support.

m4r0v3r
2014-03-27, 10:14
Meh I'd rather developers jump in and start programming for Sailfish, people say Ubuntu is going to blow Sailfish out of the water, but two things:

A. they don't have a phone...
B. there also using Qt so when Ubuntu does finally arrive at the party everybody benefits.

mscion
2014-03-27, 12:12
Could this eventually work on my decrepit Samsung Galaxy Player 3.6? It runs Android 2.3 gingerbread and I think Sailfish could possible make it a more usable device again.

From this post by flotron on xda it says

"Jolla will launch soon a "hardware adaptation development kit". So anyone can start porting their own Android version.
Only requirement: support CyanogenMod 10.1 or higher (source: IRC)"

So you'll have to determine if your device supports, at minimum, CyanogenMod 10.1.

mscion
2014-03-27, 12:31
Meh I'd rather developers jump in and start programming for Sailfish, people say Ubuntu is going to blow Sailfish out of the water, but two things:

A. they don't have a phone...
B. there also using Qt so when Ubuntu does finally arrive at the party everybody benefits.

To me, the biggest advantage that Ubuntu has over Sailfish is name recognition and that it tries to directly link to its desktop distribution. It would be great if Sailfish or Sailfish launcher could be modified to doubly serve as phone etc. and a desktop environment for, say, Debian that runs on phone and tablet and desktop. @qole you still out there?

juiceme
2014-03-27, 14:46
To me, the biggest advantage that Ubuntu has over Sailfish is name recognition and that it tries to directly link to its desktop distribution

And the fact that they have a huge pile to burn money any way they would like to do... :D


It would be great if Sailfish or Sailfish launcher could be modified to doubly serve as phone etc. and a desktop environment for, say, Debian that runs on phone and tablet and desktop. @qole you still out there?

Unfortunately Debian is not possible, it would have to be some RPM-based distribution.

mscion
2014-03-27, 14:52
And the fact that they have a huge pile to burn money any way they would like to do... :D




Unfortunately Debian is not possible, it would have to be some RPM-based distribution.

Thanks. RPM is fine with me I have Fedora on my Galaxy Note 3!

Btw folks. Time to go to work!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/jolla-sailfish/general/sailfish-android-devices-release-t2696409/post51417864

Dave999
2014-03-27, 15:43
Thanks. RPM is fine with me I have Fedora on my Galaxy Note 3!

Btw folks. Time to go to work!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/jolla-sailfish/general/sailfish-android-devices-release-t2696409/post51417864

I failed miserably at my first try :( But I will be back...

Big thanks to Carsten Munk (Stskeeps) and SailfishOS for Android devices team. Plus a huge thanks to daycrawler for sharing.

Edit/ Why the watermark? Please rem8ve...in next update.

jalyst
2014-03-27, 18:57
And the fact that they have a huge pile to burn money any way they would like to do... :D

Had a debate with one of the lead editors @ArsTechnica, it was mind-numbing...
The main rationale he used for why they rarely cover sailfish but cover ubuntu touch heaps (even compared to the 3x main OS's) basically came down to:

ubuntu touch has a future because it has big/powerful backers, sailfish isn't interesting because it's chances of success longer-term are much lower
(oversimplifying what he said somewhat).

Dave999
2014-03-27, 20:30
Had a debate with one of the lead editors @ArsTechnica, it was mind-numbing...
The main rationale he used for why they rarely cover sailfish but cover ubuntu touch heaps (even compared to the 3x main OS's) basically came down to:


(oversimplifying what he said somewhat).

Love your debates. Please tell me all about...Why not get a nexus and install sail?

m4r0v3r
2014-03-27, 23:09
Had a debate with one of the lead editors @ArsTechnica, it was mind-numbing...
The main rationale he used for why they rarely cover sailfish but cover ubuntu touch heaps (even compared to the 3x main OS's) basically came down to:


(oversimplifying what he said somewhat).

he aka fanboy

Dave999
2014-03-28, 08:00
Anyone tried this on any other device? Nexus7?

Make this great and sail can blow out of proportion in no time.

ggabriel
2014-03-28, 10:03
Edit/ Why the watermark? Please rem8ve...in next update.

Understandable... they don't want anybody posting screenshots of work in progress without "forcing" them to show it's work in progress - the email to early adopters mentions that you should make it very clear that this is probably a pre-alpha image.

I had a go at it (thanks sledges) and the watermark really doesn't intrude so much ;-)

EDIT: FWIW, I've already seen somebody mentioned this as a RC, and it isn't a RC.

mariusmssj
2014-03-28, 10:16
Anyone tried this on any other device? Nexus7?

Make this great and sail can blow out of proportion in no time.

I would love to have sailfish on my nexus 7!!!

mscion
2014-03-28, 11:57
I would love to have sailfish on my nexus 7!!!

Yes. I'm not so interested in nexus 4 but I'm now definitely in the market for a nexus 7. Indeed if you check here (from earlier post)

https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris

It really appears as if Nexus 7 is farther along. Anyone have an idea when sailfish will be released for Nexus 7?

Another piece of good news is it looks like volume +- is working for Nexus 4 which was not the case a few days ago.

Cheers everyone. Exciting times ahead!

ggabriel
2014-03-28, 13:59
I'd suggest try CyanogenMod 10.1 on the nexus 7 and any other thing you want to run Sailfish on, and then wait for the HADK.

I'm marginally happy for Jolla to have achieved this, just hope this doesn't suck up too many resources from proper Sailfish development, and even Jolla hardware.

Alecsandru
2014-03-28, 15:20
the s3 lte will be a good phone if sailfish will have all the drivers

Dave999
2014-03-28, 16:06
Understandable... they don't want anybody posting screenshots of work in progress without "forcing" them to show it's work in progress - the email to early adopters mentions that you should make it very clear that this is probably a pre-alpha image.

I had a go at it (thanks sledges) and the watermark really doesn't intrude so much ;-)

EDIT: FWIW, I've already seen somebody mentioned this as a RC, and it isn't a RC.

Who cares what it is. It is what it is. Not more not less. Guess it possible to remove. I like my devices want to run with it. It's not nice. Bloat.

ggabriel
2014-03-28, 16:17
Who cares what it is. It is what it is. Not more not less. Guess it possible to remove. I like my devices want to run with it. It's not nice. Bloat.

Well, you may be pretty understanding of the level at which software is released at its different evolving stages, however, some (most?) people aren't.
If it so happens that the watermark can be removed and then some fanboi/fandroid site publishes videos of a pre-alpha Sailfish, affecting Jolla's image, then we won't get any more pre-alpha stuff to test.

Remember: because some people are naughty, we can't have good things (like bringing your own bottle of water to the airport). So, I hope it isn't removable :-)

Dave999
2014-03-28, 16:32
Well, you may be pretty understanding of the level at which software is released at its different evolving stages, however, some (most?) people aren't.
If it so happens that the watermark can be removed and then some fanboi/fandroid site publishes videos of a pre-alpha Sailfish, affecting Jolla's image, then we won't get any more pre-alpha stuff to test.

Remember: because some people are naughty, we can't have good things (like bringing your own bottle of water to the airport). So, I hope it isn't removable :-)

This is what i just read: Yes, jolla users are more stupid than the rest of the sw componies users... ;)

I just hope its gone soon. No Point of discussions this issue futher. Lets agree to dissagree.

Lets try to use IT, hack IT, break IT and make IT. Stskeeps...use the source and leak the force.

http://images.bluegartr.com/bucket/gallery/630603412a8cce7cb6413313020f9c02.jpg

I'm waiting for the next update. It will be Epic.

ggabriel
2014-03-29, 10:34
Can anybody tell if the Fingerterm that comes with the Nexus 4 image is the same as the Jolla one? If it's different, can anybody try if copy/paste works in both directions? :-)

mikecomputing
2014-03-29, 14:43
about nexus 7

https://twitter.com/AnttiSaarnio/status/449767194902032384

mscion
2014-03-29, 18:59
about nexus 7

https://twitter.com/AnttiSaarnio/status/449767194902032384

Stop torturing me. I want it!

rado3105
2014-03-30, 11:37
Motorola photon is propably the best new phone with keyboard on the market (using some mod or there is a lot of guys doing it for 40 Eur, it can be changed for changeable SIM).

I am still waiting for sailfish to be able install on this phone.
I Need some replacement for my nokia n900 and combo photon+sailfish is now the only one alternative.

Jedibeeftrix
2014-03-30, 14:31
about nexus 7

https://twitter.com/AnttiSaarnio/status/449767194902032384

lovely, but it makes me want a full landscape mode on the jollaphone as well as tablet sized form factors.

Alecsandru
2014-04-05, 18:09
will release someday the instructions or this will be like dalvik on n900 ?
maybe release for the phones demoed , something? hello jolla

Dave999
2014-04-06, 06:46
will release someday the instructions or this will be like dalvik on n900 ?
maybe release for the phones demoed , something? hello jolla

Do I understand what you are saying? No. Sailfish for Androi. Didn't gave the boost I expected. Sail still stumble in the dark.

Dave999
2014-04-12, 13:10
When will this hardware adaption kit be available...before next week?

mscion
2014-04-21, 17:59
Well, it will probably be a long time till Sailfish is ported to the Galaxy Note 3 (If ever...) So for now I've copied an ambience wallpaper from my Jolla phone to my GN3 and set some swipe gestures to be similar. Like swiping to right from top 1/3 left edge takes me to recent apps (I know not the same as running apps...), swiping up gets me to app drawer. Also added swiping from mid 1/3 left edge to return to home. Swipe left from right side mid 1/3 to bring up contacts and so forth. It will do for now...

herpderp
2014-04-21, 18:18
What ROM are you using on your GN3?

mscion
2014-04-21, 18:50
I have a T-mobile GN3 and am using Tweaked rom by dwitherell. This is still Jelly Bean but KitKat is in the works. He has done a terrific job with customizations. Some other stuff: Using Nova Launcher. The clock widget is from an app called One More Clock. Some of the icons have a kitkat theme for Nova Launcher. I use GMD to make most gestures. Just noticed I'm using Boat Browser. Appropriate for this wallpaper!

rcolistete
2014-04-21, 22:40
There is now a 2nd release (Early Adopter Release, EA2) of Sailfish OS for Nexus 4 (mako), see the XDA Developers topic "[April 17] Sailfish OS for early adopters released for Nexus 4" (http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/sailfish-os-progress-nexus-4-t2667622).

It has Sailfish OS v1.0.5.16 (released in 11/04/2014), with audio phone calls working, etc.

* Download the SailfishOS for Android image for "mako"
a. The file you want to download is :
http://releases.sailfishos.org/sfa-ea/sailfishos-mako-release-1.0.5.16-EA2.zip
b. Another flavour filled with demo content:
http://releases.sailfishos.org/sfa-ea/sailfishos-mako-release-1.0.5.16-EA2-demo-content.zip
(http://releases.sailfishos.org/sfa-ea/sailfishos-mako-release-1.0.5.16-EA2-demo-content.zip)

Fixes since EA1:
* Phone-calls with audio work
* Timers and alarms (with device powered on) work
* HTML5 video+audio works in Browser (tested splash on http://jolla.com )
* Update is based on SailfishOS version 1.0.5.16

Release notes and Known issues for Early Adopter Release 2 for mako/Nexus 4:
* To securely power off the device, during its boot-up keep Volume Down pressed to enter bootloader mode. Using volume keys, select "Power off" option, then press the Power key
* Settings->System->Developer Mode or About Product may freeze a bit, but resumes normal operation shortly (after display blanking)
* If not auto-detected from SIM, set-up mobile internet data settings via Settings->System->Mobile network->(long tap on the first toggle-item under "Mobile data" section)->(enter settings given by your operator)
* Phone-call audio volume does not change with volume buttons

Nexus4-specific known issues reported by the adopters:
* Chinese text input not working
* Localhost name is shown as Jolla (this is intentional)
* Chat notifications may arrive with a slight delay
* Switching between the online and offline status in the status information setting takes very long and often doesn’t switch properly
* Google contacts which are put together with different information, are now split up into several contacts in Sailfish
* The battery display seems to be a bit buggy because it loses about 15% from one second to another
* The calendar overview when filled with events seems to be a bit laggy
* The email push is not working correctly, I do not receive any emails until I push the refresh button
* Splitting words in the German translation: e.g. in the open apps on the home screen it says: "Kurzzeitmesse" and in the next line the missing "r"
* NOTE: all other Sailfish OS issues have already been reported on TJC - http://together.jolla.com - and many of them were fixed in this 1.0.5.16 release

Release notes/Known Issues since Release 1:
* We have a subtle watermark underneath the UI at all times stating "SailfishOS development software" "This is not production quality". Developer mode is activated at all times
* There has been no throughout testing of telephony related functionality (roaming, airplane mode, etc) and any use of this functionality is at your own risk
* Sensors, Device lock, Reset device, Bluetooth, USB control + MTP, Bluetooth, WLAN hotspot, Camera (photography, video recording), and video playback is not supported in this release
* Jolla account / Store is removed from the image due to problems with registering with Jolla infrastructure
* The image SW is not currently upgradeable, nor is any typically licensed multimedia codecs (MP3, etc), HERE maps, Android application compatibility layer, or word prediction for virtual keyboard preinstalled
* It is not possible to double-tap to wake up the device
* Powering off device puts it into a state of deep slumber; possible to get out of by holding power button and volume down key with a bit of persistence
* Fingerterm application may fail to launch during first attempts, and the keyboard is not at its best due to the portrait-only mode
* FPS drop while scrolling in homescreen due to non-batching when rendering of application icon grid
* Icons/graphics appear unproportionally small in browser toolbar, time select widget, and Settings favourite icons
* Multiboot/Multirom is not supported yet but we're happy if you would like to teach/help us.

mscion
2014-04-23, 12:14
Forget Nexus 4 and SG3. Drop everything and port Sailfish to this...

http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/23/oneplus-one-launch-ceo-pete-lau-interview/

juiceme
2014-04-23, 12:28
Forget Nexus 4 and SG3. Drop everything and port Sailfish to this...

http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/23/oneplus-one-launch-ceo-pete-lau-interview/

Another android device... do we really need em all??????

mscion
2014-04-23, 12:38
Another android device... do we really need em all??????

We don't! This device has top of the line specs, nice size screen,
starts of with CyanogenMod, I quote

"On top of the usual NFC, dual-band WiFi, Bluetooth 4.1 plus GPS radios, the One's international version also supports LTE bands 1/3/4/7/17/38/40, as well as WCDMA bands 1/2/4/5/8. Yep, that's pretty much the whole world covered."

Why Jolla phone did not have this type of coverage escapes me...

Finally, the price is very reasonable $299 for 16GB model, $349 for 64GB model.

herpderp
2014-04-23, 13:45
It's a company not being backed by a major manufacturer, bringing out a killer specced phone, for less than the Jolla.

We always got the argument for the Jolla's inferior specs that it's a small company. How exactly is OnePlus any better in this regard? How could they do this, and Jolla couldn't?

mscion
2014-04-23, 13:50
It's a company not being backed by a major manufacturer, bringing out a killer specced phone, for less than the Jolla.

We always got the argument for the Jolla's inferior specs that it's a small company. How exactly is OnePlus any better in this regard? How could they do this, and Jolla couldn't?

Probably thumbs nose at environmental concerns and uses slave labor. But it's for a good purpose. (Just kidding...)

EDIT: Here is more info on release date.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/OnePlus-One-release-date-and-price-unveiled_id55452

rcolistete
2014-04-23, 14:44
There is now a 2nd release (Early Adopter Release, EA2) of Sailfish OS for Nexus 4 (mako), see the XDA Developers topic "[April 17] Sailfish OS for early adopters released for Nexus 4" (http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/sailfish-os-progress-nexus-4-t2667622).

It has Sailfish OS v1.0.5.16 (released in 11/04/2014), with audio phone calls working, etc.

My first tests with Sailfish 1.0.5.16 on Nexus 4 show what is not working :
- Bluetooth, NFC, camera, GPS and some other sensors;
- Android support & Here Maps, due to licensing they are exclusive to Jolla smartphone;
- "Settings->Untrusted Software" can't be enabled, so not addtional repositories can be added, neither tapping .rpm files (but they can installed by root with "pkcon install-local file.rpm");
- landscape mode in web browser and other softwares.

Sailfish on Nexus 4 is very smooth, fast and CPU and RAM efficient (as shown by htop).

Both Nokia N9 with Sailfish 1.0.2.5 and Nexus 4 with Sailfish 1.0.5.16 are useful for anybody outside Europe without access to Jolla smartphone.

marxian
2014-04-23, 14:56
We always got the argument for the Jolla's inferior specs that it's a small company. How exactly is OnePlus any better in this regard? How could they do this, and Jolla couldn't?

Practically zero R&D and software development costs? What these Android device manufacturers are doing is the smartphone equivalent of LEGO.

mscion
2014-04-23, 14:59
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Both Nokia N9 with Sailfish 1.0.2.5 and Nexus 4 with Sailfish 1.0.5.16 are useful for anybody outside Europe without access to Jolla smartphone.

Of course with the caveat, for now, that you don't need Bluetooth, NFC, GPS, maps. Also can't run Android apps if you are so inclined... Just sayin'

@recolistete: Btw, do you think there will be an easy debian (or equivalent) for Jolla. Also appreciate all the nice work you have done.

herpderp
2014-04-23, 15:24
Practically zero R&D and software development costs? What these Android device manufacturers are doing is the smartphone equivalent of LEGO.

I'm sorry, you're completely right on this one.

mscion
2014-04-23, 15:45
I'm sorry, you're completely right on this one.

Well, I don't care if its LEGOs if it serves it's purpose. I would look at it as entering an era of modularity. Let me add, I took my N900 out of its box to make photo of collected devices for another thread here and was struck at how beautifully it was designed. Even the large box it came was impressive. I hope it is not true but one of my first thoughts about it was Those days are gone...

rcolistete
2014-04-23, 16:08
Of course with the caveat, for now, that you don't need Bluetooth, NFC, GPS, maps. Also can't run Android apps if you are so inclined... Just sayin'

Anyway, Sailfish on N9 and Nexus 4 are very useful for developers without real Jolla smartphone, and users wanting to test Sailfish OS in everyday use. Both my case, I bought Nexus 4 just to test new Android versions, Ubuntu Touch and now Sailfish OS will remain installed.

@recolistete: Btw, do you think there will be an easy debian (or equivalent) for Jolla. Also appreciate all the nice work you have done.

It depends on :
- XWayland being ported to Sailfish;
- or some Linux ARM distribution (Debian, etc) being ported to Wayland.
No time frame for both options.

marxian
2014-04-23, 16:10
Well, I don't care if its LEGOs if it serves it's purpose. I would look at it as entering an era of modularity.

If anything, things are heading in exactly the opposite direction. Features that could previously be taken for granted are being removed to introduce planned obsolescence and make the consumer more dependent upon the manufacturer. It's more like an era of assimilation. One identikit fondleslab after another. Different platform, different 'ecosystem', same post-iPhone paradigm, same shite.

herpderp
2014-04-23, 16:17
If anything, things are heading in exactly the opposite direction.

Not necessarily, have you seen project Ara (http://www.projectara.com/)?

mscion
2014-04-23, 18:15
If anything, things are heading in exactly the opposite direction. Features that could previously be taken for granted are being removed to introduce planned obsolescence and make the consumer more dependent upon the manufacturer. It's more like an era of assimilation. One identikit fondleslab after another. Different platform, different 'ecosystem', same post-iPhone paradigm, same shite.

Gee, I dunno, your post makes me think the world is coming to an end. And to make things worse there is no cuteTube for my Jolla phone....

Dave999
2014-04-23, 18:51
Good Artists Copy. Great Artists Steal...Did you say lego...

http://core0.staticworld.net/images/article/2014/04/project-ara-01-100262005-primary.idge.jpg

jalyst
2014-04-25, 18:35
It's a company not being backed by a major manufacturer, bringing out a killer specced phone, for less than the Jolla.

We always got the argument for the Jolla's inferior specs that it's a small company. How exactly is OnePlus any better in this regard? How could they do this, and Jolla couldn't?

I dare-say the founders have far better connections into the silicon industry there, prolly able to secure a "quit pro quo" on a set no. of units for a way more reasonable price, for starters.
Also, we don't know how much $ they had at their disposal, they may have been flushed with way more than what Jolla had (despite their 1st CEO stupidly hinting they had heaps in the pipeline).
VC's big over there in recent years, lots of $ flying around for start-ups, there's still a misconception that China's all poor people, it has a phenomenal no of millionaires/billionaire nowadays.

Not necessarily, have you seen project Ara (http://www.projectara.com/)?

Yup, & they're seemingly moving at a more rigorous pace in term of hw augmentation than Jolla ever has*, as far as Jolla's concerned, that whole area's been mostly a non-event so far, sadly.
Then again, the big co's bank rolling Ara could lose interest in ~12mth & dump the entire thing after all the good work that's been done, Jolla (so long as it can survive) will be there for the long haul.

*I'm a very light contributor on their user feedback program

taixzo
2014-04-25, 19:55
Anyway, Sailfish on N9 and Nexus 4 are very useful for developers without real Jolla smartphone, and users wanting to test Sailfish OS in everyday use. Both my case, I bought Nexus 4 just to test new Android versions, Ubuntu Touch and now Sailfish OS will remain installed.



It depends on :
- XWayland being ported to Sailfish;
- or some Linux ARM distribution (Debian, etc) being ported to Wayland.
No time frame for both options.

Debian already has Wayland support. See for example the Maynard desktop (http://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/#preview-the-upcoming-maynard-desktop) for Raspberry Pi.

mscion
2014-04-27, 22:36
Some progress being made on porting Sailfish to Nexus 5. Once working this would be a significant milestone because the specs on the Nexus 5 are, in general, quite a bit better then Jolla phone as compared to Nexus 4 and SG3.

http://www.jollausers.com/2014/04/wip-sailfish-os-running-on-google-nexus-5/

shmerl
2014-04-28, 15:39
Why in general discussions about libhybris based ports happen on XDA developers rather than here?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/sailfish-os-progress-nexus-4-t2667622

Dave999
2014-04-28, 16:10
Why in general discussions about libhybris based ports happen on XDA developers rather than here?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/sailfish-os-progress-nexus-4-t2667622

Maybe because the more skilled androiddevs hanging out right there...Maybe jolla gave heads start to select few over there...or its just a coincidence. When you think of it. Does TMO has anything in common with Jolla more than that we like beer?

The important think is that its done. Does it matter who does it and why?

shmerl
2014-04-28, 16:16
I don't mind where it happens, just asking why there. TMO was claimed to become a forum for Jolla. Jolla even decided not to create their own forum because of that. So this discussion not happening here is somewhat strange in this context.

Dave999
2014-04-28, 16:53
I don't mind where it happens, just asking why there. TMO was claimed to become a forum for Jolla. Jolla even decided not to create their own forum because of that. So this discussion not happening here is somewhat strange in this context.

Whatever jolla say or do they don't decided where things happen and for this specific task I think android forum is better since most people are considered to be trolls here if they like or use android ;) Have that crossed your mind?

You do know that they love and use android over there...here not so much :D

This is a task for android-lovers mainly, not jolla users since they are using jPhones.

Simples as thats.
http://ajsignsandgraphics.co.uk/sites/default/files/imagecache/product_full/Sit%20Back%20And%20Relax%20b.JPG

jalyst
2014-04-28, 18:09
I don't think they ever committed to using forums heavily as a medium for GTD, even there you'll see they're not interacting heavily.
But it makes sense to (initially) reach out there, as a FAR larger & more experienced/skilled Android dev. community is there.
From there they can get those folks attention, & then move to other mediums for the "heavy lifting"...
Personally I think forums can be great for serious work, but they (& many other devs) don't seem to think so...

Eztran
2014-04-28, 18:31
Another point is simply, how many people are discussing the Android ports there compared to here? It's not that Jolla are focussing more on XDA, it's that there are just actually people there talking about it.

jalyst
2014-05-14, 15:04
So, what happened to the promised exciting upcoming developments from Sailfish(Jolla) in this area, it's been mostly a yawnfest so far.
There's been more (mostly useless) noise in the N9 port thread than here or the xda-dev thread FFS, which doesn't bode well at all...

nieldk
2014-05-14, 15:15
Whatever jolla say or do they don't decided where things happen and for this specific task I think android forum is better since most people are considered to be trolls here if they like or use android ;) Have that crossed your mind?

You do know that they love and use android over there...here not so much :D

This is a task for android-lovers mainly, not jolla users since they are using jPhones.

Simples as thats.
http://ajsignsandgraphics.co.uk/sites/default/files/imagecache/product_full/Sit%20Back%20And%20Relax%20b.JPG

I swear, if ppl dont stop calling it jPhone, I will shoot mine with a .45 magnum

nokiabot
2014-05-14, 15:41
the name Jphone seems cool and when told to new ones they spectaculate what it is

jalyst
2014-05-14, 15:44
the name Jphone seems cool and when told to new ones they spectaculate what it is

Seems completely lame to me, "The Jolla" is way better IMO...
It's original, & doesn't gratuitously "ride on the coattails" of another brand.

mscion
2014-05-14, 16:43
So, what happened to the promised exciting upcoming developments from Sailfish(Jolla) in this area, it's been mostly a yawnfest so far.
There's been more (mostly useless) noise in the N9 port thread than here or the xda-dev thread FFS, which doesn't bode well at all...

Progress is slow but sure...

https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris


Correct me if I'm wrong but I do not think there has been any real progress based on xda folks efforts. Basically they test a release of sailfish for a device but do not do development to improve it. This appears to be all in Jolla's hands. Except for the Nexus 5 all development is on devices with outdated specs. I would prefer for Jolla to pick two state of art devices, say one phone and one tablet and concentrate on getting it work on that. If Jolla did that I would pay to download fully working rom.

jalyst
2014-05-14, 17:24
Yeah, they're definitely spreading themselves too thin, they already have very limited/stretched resources...
Pick the "bang for buck" leader from each entrenched & emerging form-factor (tablet/handset/other), & focus only on it.

For the handset, OnePlus's "One" looks pretty damn cool*, & given it's generous price it's likely to be snatched-up in large no's.
But maybe it's best to go with bigger brands, ones which have much better worldwide distribution/logistics/supply.
Or models that have been in the market for longer than even the Nexus 5, plus have proven high sales...

None of this is "rocket science", just sit down & calculate the cost-benefit-ratios, but they don't seem to get it.

*or just continue with only the Nexus 5

bill_klpd
2014-05-29, 19:22
I recently bought the galaxy s3 and I am really interested in having Jolla on it. Is there any image out right now, or is there some one who is working on it? I am thinking of starting programming after school (in less than a month :D) and I would love to do something for sailfish, but not having a phone with sailfish on it is not helpful.. I have seen the video in YouTube, but there aren't any further instructions.

szopin
2014-05-29, 19:29
I recently bought the galaxy s3 and I am really interested in having Jolla on it. Is there any image out right now, or is there some one who is working on it? I am thinking of starting programming after school (in less than a month :D) and I would love to do something for sailfish, but not having a phone with sailfish on it is not helpful.. I have seen the video in YouTube, but there aren't any further instructions.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/jolla-sailfish/general/how-to-download-install-jolla-sailfish-t2721705
Most work/discussions about it are on the android forum (man I remember it being mostly about winmob, heh), you can most likely still join early adopters club, don't believe there is official public release

bockersjv
2014-06-04, 08:36
Any news on this? Running Sailfish on other devices seems to have gone awfully quiet. Also what happened to the Sailfish front end for Android Tablets.?

I wish there was a better official channel than jolla.together. There is so much noise on there to make it almost useless. Jollas other channels, FB and Twitter have gone very quiet of late. :(

Stskeeps
2014-06-04, 09:02
We're currently waiting for update7, then next stuff goes out

mscion
2014-06-04, 11:49
This is good news. Is it at all possible that a means wil be made available to have Dalvik license? To me this is a major drawback. Also is there an idea when the development package will be made available to make sailfish portable to additional devices. Thanks.

rcolistete
2014-06-18, 13:29
From Mer IRC logs of 17/06/2014 (http://merproject.org/logs/%23sailfishos/%23sailfishos.2014-06-17.log.html) :
Stskeeps OK, release is postponed until monday 13:28
Stskeeps of the N4 image 13:29
Stskeeps we hit a problem in testing phase 13:29
So Sailfish 1.0.7.16 for Nexus 4 is expected next week.

Dave999
2014-06-18, 18:32
the name Jphone seems cool and when told to new ones they spectaculate what it is

iConcur.

We're currently waiting for update7, then next stuff goes out

What does this mean? Waiting? Jolla waiting for update 7 and the push it to us so we can upgrade android devices?

jalyst
2014-06-18, 18:41
From Mer IRC logs of 17/06/2014 (http://merproject.org/logs/%23sailfishos/%23sailfishos.2014-06-17.log.html) :
So Sailfish 1.0.7.16 for Nexus 4 is expected next week.

Sweeeet...
So, literally full-blown Sailfish, nothing missing?

This is good news. Is it at all possible that a means wil be made available to have Dalvik license? To me this is a major drawback. Also is there an idea when the development package will be made available to make sailfish portable to additional devices. Thanks.

If Carsten (stskeeps) or someone else is able to answer the 2 Qns above, that'd be great.
We really do need a solution for Alien Dalvik soon, that issue has had a big Qn mark for too long.

What does this mean? Waiting? Jolla waiting for update 7 and the push it to us so we can upgrade android devices?

Try reading the post above yours (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1430011#post1430011), stskeeps's post is ancient now.

Dave999
2014-06-18, 18:50
Try reading the post above yours (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1430011#post1430011), stskeeps's post is ancient now.

What is the FET Project?

jalyst
2014-06-18, 19:30
Pop into that IRC channel & ask, & let us know here -or elsewhere @TMO.

nieldk
2014-06-18, 19:48
http://cordis.europa.eu/fp7/ict/programme/fet_en.html

m4r0v3r
2014-06-18, 22:31
i read somewhere with the next update for the Nexus 4, the hardware adaptation kit will be released :O

Jedibeeftrix
2014-06-19, 09:03
great news.

roll on a fully functional version for the nexus 5.

minimos
2014-06-19, 14:05
Check https://together.jolla.com/question/47655/jolla-launcher-community-alpha-testing-begins-next-week/. From the post:

We are proud to tell that we’ve reached a new milestone in the development of bringing the Sailfish OS experience to Android devices.
The product will be officially called the ‘Jolla Launcher’, and our invitation based Alpha phase testing will start next week.

and

The Alpha testing phase is targeted mainly for Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 devices.
The Jolla Launcher Alpha can also be installed on many other devices running Android 4.3 or later.

jalyst
2014-06-19, 14:07
great news. roll on a fully functional version for the nexus 5.

But we don't know that it's full functional yet (i.e. same as the Jolla) do we?
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1430059#post1430059

Check https://together.jolla.com/question/47655/jolla-launcher-community-alpha-testing-begins-next-week/. From the post:

Oh cool, thanks!

jalyst
2014-06-19, 14:11
What about Sailfish for the Nexus_4/5/Other & the hw dev kit, announcement on that soon too?
Personally that's way more interesting to me than the launcher...

nieldk
2014-06-19, 14:23
The latest image is here
http://releases.sailfishos.org/sfa-ea/sailfishos-mako-release-1.0.7.16-EA3.zip

and the hardware adaption source code:
https://github.com/mer-hybris

Jedibeeftrix
2014-06-19, 14:52
[waits for invite...]

jalyst
2014-06-19, 15:09
The latest image is here
http://releases.sailfishos.org/sfa-ea/sailfishos-mako-release-1.0.7.16-EA3.zip

and the hardware adaption source code:
https://github.com/mer-hybris


Sweet! Is there an official announce for this somewhere yet? TY.

nieldk
2014-06-19, 15:28
Sweet! Is there an official announce for this somewhere yet? TY.

possibly ;)
I just hack :P

oh, interresting presentation by Tieto on the work they did for Jolla, for those who didnt read

http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events/files/slides/elc_telephony_piirainen_0.pdf

Dave999
2014-06-19, 15:29
Sweet! Is there an official announce for this somewhere yet? TY.

No, it will be after next release.

jalyst
2014-06-19, 16:35
possibly ;)
I just hack :P

I hack .: I am... O_o

No, it will be after next release.

Source? I hope you're not basing that assertion purely on this?
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1430094&postcount=85

TIA.

Stskeeps
2014-06-19, 17:25
The next image comes out on Monday, do us a favour and not take this image into use as there's some important instructions we need to publish along with it for people to read.

jalyst
2014-06-19, 18:21
http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/19/5822336/nokia-team-creates-z-launcher-android
http://bgr.com/2014/06/19/nokia-z-launcher-download-android/
http://mynokiablog.com/2014/06/19/bgr-shockingly-innovative-z-launcher-by-nokia-for-android/
Not sure about the "shockingly innovative" part, but so much for those who keep shrilling that Nokia will eventually get back tight with Jolla, looking even less likely.

ste-phan
2014-06-19, 18:25
Not too look a given horse in the mouth, but.. will Android support be included in the Sailfish image for Nexus 4/5?
Or does it need to be hacked in later?

nieldk
2014-06-19, 18:31
The next image comes out on Monday, do us a favour and not take this image into use as there's some important instructions we need to publish along with it for people to read.

iam probably going to try it anyways hehe ;)
Instructions are already avail on XDA ;)

Dave999
2014-06-19, 18:50
I hack .: I am... O_o



Source? I hope you're not basing that assertion purely on this?
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1430094&postcount=85

TIA.

No. I base it on this. please read below:

The next image comes out on Monday, do us a favour and not take this image into use as there's some important instructions we need to publish along with it for people to read.

I have my sources ;)

jalyst
2014-06-19, 18:57
No. I based it on this. please read below:

Umm no you didn't, your post was before that post of stskeeps you reference.
Unless you travelled to the future you couldn't have...
Plz don't stink up the thread with silly posts (I know that's asking too much >.>)

Jalyst, also read this plz...
[READ AT YOUR OWN RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISK!!!]

Yeah, and? Nothing that hasn't already been shared in this thread. >.>

The next image comes out on Monday, do us a favour and not take this image into use as there's some important instructions we need to publish along with it for people to read.

So on Monday you'll have a full/official announcement, with all Qns answered (1 e.g. = Alien Dalvik support), + the hw dev kit?

Dave999
2014-06-19, 18:59
Umm no you didn't, your post was long before that post of stskeeps you reference.
Unless you travelled to the future you couldn't have...
Plz don't stink up the thread with silly posts (I know that's asking too much >.>)

Sure, don`t ask if you don`t want an answer then.

Jalyst, also read this plz...


[READ AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!]

http://thejollablog.wordpress.com/

So on Monday you'll have a full/official announcement, with all Qns answered (1 e.g. = Alien Dalvik support), + the hw dev kit?

No, not all Qns.

nieldk
2014-06-20, 16:37
10 chars .....

mscion
2014-06-20, 16:44
10 chars .....

Nice. Can you comment on what, in your view, works well and what doesn't. Also, as a side note, is it good practice to you show your imei number?

nieldk
2014-06-20, 16:55
Nice. Can you comment on what, in your view, works well and what doesn't. Also, as a side note, is it good practice to you show your imei number?

hehe no, not good karme ;) Not that I really care, but ....

I will post my experiences in a bit :)
It seems smooth so far.

EDIT: WLAN and Sound does work, when coming from clean 4.2.2 -> CM 10.1.3 -> Sailfish

First impression compared to the 1.0.4.x image. Keyboard is nicer (not unusable small characters like it was then)

Apps working as expected.

Still no Alien-Dalvik (Google apps)

Now, to 'upgrade' to 1.0.7.18

Dave999
2014-06-20, 17:10
Calls, SMS, Mail and browser works? (Except with WLAN and sound)

Does it matter what CM you are using as long as it built from 4.3?

nieldk
2014-06-20, 17:24
You need to
install stock 4.2.2 (JDQ39)
flash clockworkmod recovery
Fact. reset
Flash cm 10.1.3 fro Recovery
Flash Sailfish Image from Recovery

Yes, everything works, call, sms, wlan, mobile network.
In 1.0.7.18 the ambience image (background image)is off to the left - this was not the case with 1.0.7.16
Testing some more now

Dave999
2014-06-20, 17:26
You need to
install stock 4.2.2 (JDQ39)
flash clockworkmod recovery
Fact. reset
Flash cm 10.1.3 fro Recovery
Flash Sailfish Image from Recovery

Yes, everything works, call, sms, wlan, mobile network.
In 1.0.7.18 the ambience image (background image)is off to the left - this was not the case with 1.0.7.16
Testing some more now

Solid news.

nieldk
2014-06-20, 17:32
Not able to enable "untrusted software install"
- but manually installing warehouse from terminal, and installing apps from warehouse (or terminal) works fine

Camera not working

jalyst
2014-06-20, 18:13
Sweet, love to hear from folks with a Nexus 5, don't really feel like being the 1st crash test dummy ;-P

nieldk
2014-06-20, 18:41
don't really feel like being the 1st crash test dummy ;-P

live and let die :P
its my main purpose hehe

ste-phan
2014-06-20, 20:15
Not able to enable "untrusted software install"
- but manually installing warehouse from terminal, and installing apps from warehouse (or terminal) works fine

Camera not working

Fixed in Monday's release together with Alien Dalvik? :)

Tomorrow report on battery life in standby if not heavy use? :p

rcolistete
2014-06-20, 23:02
Not able to enable "untrusted software install"
- but manually installing warehouse from terminal, and installing apps from warehouse (or terminal) works fine

Camera not working

Yeah, I confirm this issue, it was also present in v1.0.5.16 on Nexus 4. So "$ pkcon install-local <filename.rpm>" is the solution.

I see no difference between Sailfish 1.0.7.16 and 1.0.5.16 with respect to Nexus 4 hardware adaptation (https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris) : with no camera, GPS, Bluetooth, NFC and sensors (i.e., no automatic screen rotation).

But v1.0.7.16 on Nexus :
- seems more stable (the problem pressing Power to wake-up not working is gone, I think);
- has a first start-up screen asking the user to enter name, phone number, email, etc (I think it is for the beta testing of Sailfish Early Adopter Release for Android devices);
- has Jolla Store working without workaround;
- has no watermark underneath the UI with "SailfishOS development software";
- video is working, but no MP3 music playing (lack of codec);
- seems to spend 1% of battery for each 2 hours of usage (without SIM card, WiFi on, light use). Better than 2-3 days v1.0.5.16 and SIM card usage (calls, 3G). To be better tested.
- folders of apps work very well.

Thanks, Jolla sailors, for Sailfish v1.0.7.16 and its adaptation for Nexus 4.

Dave999
2014-06-21, 13:24
Yeah, I confirm this issue, it was also present in v1.0.5.16 on Nexus 4. So "$ pkcon install-local <filename.rpm>" is the solution.

I see no difference between Sailfish 1.0.7.16 and 1.0.5.16 with respect to Nexus 4 hardware adaptation (https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris) : with no camera, GPS, Bluetooth, NFC and sensors (i.e., no automatic screen rotation).

But v1.0.7.16 on Nexus :
- seems more stable (the problem pressing Power to wake-up not working is gone, I think);
- has a first start-up screen asking the user to enter name, phone number, email, etc (I think it is for the beta testing of Sailfish Early Adopter Release for Android devices);
- has Jolla Store working without workaround;
- has no watermark underneath the UI with "SailfishOS development software";
- video is working, but no MP3 music playing (lack of codec);
- seems to spend 1% of battery for each 2 hours of usage (without SIM card, WiFi on, light use). Better than 2-3 days v1.0.5.16 and SIM card usage (calls, 3G). To be better tested.
- folders of apps work very well.

Thanks, Jolla sailors, for Sailfish v1.0.7.16 and its adaptation for Nexus 4.

Great that watermark made cracy. Such a cheap act to add it. Finallly removed :D

While we are at it. I don't see why this shouldn't work for other devices as well. Will jolla use nexus 4 or 5 as reference device? Anyone tried on nexus 7

Dave999
2014-06-22, 15:33
Anyone knows when jolla well drop this alpha to us tomorrow? Morning, evening or during the lunch break.

Markkyboy
2014-06-23, 00:26
Hi guys, does anyone know if I will get a look in with my Samsung Galaxy S2 for Jolla Launcher beta testing??
I've had the stable 10.1.3 running as well without problem, so I'm assuming that as my SGS2 runs 10.1.3 that it should be able to run Sailfish too?, or will I still need to be coming from Android 4.2 to start with?
Regards,

jalyst
2014-06-23, 06:40
In theory, it should be easier to support a wider array of devices for "Sailfish Android Launcher" compared to "Sailfish for Android Hw". Wait till they make their official announcements.

rcolistete
2014-06-23, 06:51
Hi guys, does anyone know if I will get a look in with my Samsung Galaxy S2 for Jolla Launcher beta testing??
I've had the stable 10.1.3 running as well without problem, so I'm assuming that as my SGS2 runs 10.1.3 that it should be able to run Sailfish too?, or will I still need to be coming from Android 4.2 to start with?
Regards,

SGS2 isn't in the pipeline, see this table of Sailfish Adaptation for Android devices :
https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris

Jolla will release the Hardware Adaptation Development Kit, so any community user will have the tools to port Sailfish to SGS2, etc.

nieldk
2014-06-23, 07:23
Hi guys, does anyone know if I will get a look in with my Samsung Galaxy S2 for Jolla Launcher beta testing??
I've had the stable 10.1.3 running as well without problem, so I'm assuming that as my SGS2 runs 10.1.3 that it should be able to run Sailfish too?, or will I still need to be coming from Android 4.2 to start with?
Regards,

Feel free to build libhybris ;) and get it running
https://github.com/mer-hybris

jalyst
2014-06-23, 07:32
Guys he was asking about the sailfish android launcher, not sailfish for android hw.
Although personally if it were me, I'd be far more interested in the latter...

Jolla will release the Hardware Adaptation Development Kit, so any community user will have the tools to port Sailfish to SGS2, etc.

Do we have all the detail on that yet, inc. when it's being officially announced etc?

juiceme
2014-06-23, 07:36
Feel free to build libhybris ;) and get it running
https://github.com/mer-hybris

Well, I'd love to have SailfishOS on my Nexus7 tablet, but this is the thing that's blocking me; the requirement to build the Android HW adaptation part of it and I have not done any compiling with Android SDK's and have not had time to start learning that...

(apart from once that I built an updated version of Android wpasupplicant for a friend whose tablet could not connect to adhoc spots... but that was long time ago and just one package...)

nieldk
2014-06-23, 07:38
Yeah.
I want to
Run iOS on my Lumia 800
Run WP8.1 on my iPhone 5
Run Ubuntu for devices on my Nexus 4
Run KDE Mobile on my Jolla
Run Android on my Nokia Communicator
Run SailfishOS on my N9's
Run Debian on my N900
Run Symbian^3 on my Chineese dual-sim watch
Run Kali on my iPad Mini
Run Slackware on my Archos tablet

juiceme
2014-06-23, 07:40
Guys he was asking about the sailfish android launcher, not sailfish for android hw.
Although personally if it were me, I'd be far more interested in the latter...

Do we have all the detail on that yet, inc. when it's being officially announced etc?

I'm a bit confused about this "launcher" thingy since I do not do Android... Does it just mean SailfishOS-like UI on top of the android system, so there's no running real Sailfish applications with it?
(like, it is just a "theme" on top of Android?)

nieldk
2014-06-23, 07:42
I'm a bit confused about this "launcher" thingy since I do not do Android... Does it just mean SailfishOS-like UI on top of the android system, so there's no running real Sailfish applications with it?
(like, it is just a "theme" on top of Android?)

I believe its just a 'launcher'. So, yes, its basically Android running a new UI (I could be wrong, since the information is not that good, but at least this is what I read from all that does appear so far).

juiceme
2014-06-23, 07:42
Yeah.
I want to
Run iOS on my Lumia 800
Run WP8.1 on my iPhone 5
Run Ubuntu for devices on my Nexus 4
Run KDE Mobile on my Jolla
Run Android on my Nokia Communicator
Run SailfishOS on my N9's
Run Debian on my N900
Run Symbian^3 on my Chineese dual-sim watch
Run Kali on my iPad Mini
Run Slackware on my Archos tablet

In an ideal world pretty much all that should be doable. Some on the list I would not consider worthwhile however :p

nieldk
2014-06-23, 07:54
In an ideal world pretty much all that should be doable. Some on the list I would not consider worthwhile however :p

Well, for the i-device. Most likely a no-go, sadly enough LOL.
Also, my company would not like it :P

Markkyboy
2014-06-23, 12:13
libhy-what?, lolz, I'll leave that to you guys. I'm not a programmer, yet! ;)

rcolistete
2014-06-23, 13:05
Today is officially announced the 3rd release (Early Adopter Release, EA3) of Sailfish OS for Nexus 4 (mako), see the XDA Developers topic "[April 17] Sailfish OS for early adopters released for Nexus 4" (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53611676&postcount=433).

It has Sailfish OS v1.0.7.16 (released in 09/06/2014), with many improvements for Nexus 4, like watermark removed, phone-call audio volume changed using volume buttons, better waking phone up with the power button, etc.
Dear early adopter of SailfishOS for Android devices. This is important - read this whole mail through and follow all steps exactly as written.

IMPORTANT: If you choose to publish this mail through blogs, news sites, forums, or others, quote it as-is and in complete form ONLY, or people's devices may be at risk.

We're happy to publish the third Early Adopter Release of SailfishOS (1.0.7.16) for Nexus 4 (mako) to you.

We are still working on the SailfishOS Hardware Adaptation Development Kit, which describes how to port SailfishOS to existing devices based on CyanogenMod 10.1. Newer versions of CM will be supported eventually. We'll publish the HADK in the very near future.

This installation image is for early adopters only, meaning we know that some things are not functional or perhaps even broken -- please see the release notes below. We are excited to get all of you properly included in the early stages of the project. Do note that this SailfishOS image is strictly for personal and non-commercial usage only.

We've prepared a 'demo' version of the image which contains the kind of preinstalled 'marketing' content and the core apps used for demonstrations - this helps you quickly get a feel for all the interactions that are avalable on a device that has been used for a while but isn't really what you want for personal use. You can however cleanly remove the demo content.

We want to build a community around SailfishOS for Android devices that is based on mutual trust and respect for what we are all doing. Hence -- we ask that whenever you do screenshots, videos, forum or blog posts (and we're happy if you do!) or the like, you emphasise that this is an under-development snapshot and not a final product release.

It is important for Jolla that the correct expectations are set for those who might be users of the final product -- and that they understand what they see is not a released product. If you do demo videos, you can take advantage of our new 'demo content' image that has pre-set contacts/imagery/messages/etc to show full functionality of SailfishOS.

WARNING: Modifying or replacing your device’s software may void your device’s warranty, lead to data loss, hearing loss, hair loss, financial loss, privacy loss, security breaches, or other damage, and therefore must be done entirely at your own risk. No one affiliated with this project is responsible for your actions but yourself. Good luck.

NOTE: You will lose your on-device data (including /sdcard), so make a proper backup and make sure to copy that backup to your PC.

NOTE: Make sure to read all the release notes below. Please DO NOT contact Jolla Care for any issues encountered with this Early Adopters build, instead use communication channels listed below.

To install this release of SailfishOS on a Nexus 4 device:

* Install adb and fastboot
a. Debian/Ubuntu: apt-get install android-tools-adb android-tools-fastboot
b. Fedora: yum install android-tools
c. Mac OS X: Install Homebrew from http://brew.sh/, then: brew install android-platform-tools
d. Windows: See http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_fastboot_intro for instructions

* Install Android 4.2.2 (JDQ39) to your Nexus 4
a. Instructions here: https://developers.google.com/androi...s#instructions
b. Download links can be found here: https://developers.google.com/androi...ges#occamjdq39

* Download CyanogenMod 10.1.3 for your Nexus 4
a. Perform Factory Reset and wipe contents of the /data/ partition in case of leftovers from previous ROMs
b. The file you want to download is cm-10.1.3-mako.zip
c. Download links can be found here: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_mako

* Download the SailfishOS for Android image for "mako"
a. The file you want to download is http://releases.sailfishos.org/sfa-e...0.7.16-EA3.zip
b. Another flavour filled with demo content: http://releases.sailfishos.org/sfa-e...mo-content.zip

* Install CyanogenMod 10.1.3 on your Nexus 4
a. Follow the instructions at: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_mako

* After flashing the "cm-10.1.3-mako.zip" file, flash the SailfishOS .zip file in the same way ("on top of it")
* Reboot bootloader, SailfishOS should boot and be visible

We recommend reading through http://jolla.com/guide/ -- some parts may not apply to Nexus 4

If you want to go back to normal CyanogenMod:
a. Boot into recovery mode
b. Choose "Wipe data / factory reset"
c. Flash cm-10.1.3-mako.zip
d. (to go back to SailfishOS, flash the SailfishOS .zip on top of it)

If you want to go back to stock Android:
a. Download the stock image from https://developers.google.com/androi...s/images#occam
b. Extract the package and follow the instructions for reflashing/re-locking

To SSH into your device via USB (Linux)
1. Enable remote connection in Settings->System->Developer mode
2. Set your USB interface on host machine to IP 192.168.2.2
3. ssh nemo@192.168.2.1
4. Use the password from developer mode to log in
5. Use the 'devel-su' command with the same password in order to gain root
6. To SSH over WLAN, use IP listed in developer mode under "WLAN IP address"

Read Sailfish OS release notes:
https://together.jolla.com/question/...0716-saapunki/

Release notes/Known issues in EA3:
* EXPERIMENTAL: Jolla Store is now available, you'll need to register with your Jolla Account
* NOTE: Booting Nexus 4 with SIM first, and then removing SIM (or vice versa) may cause Jolla Store to see it as two different devices and cause potential breakage. Please stick to either SIM available or not when running SailfishOS on Nexus 4.
- There may be a bug with oFono RIL support that makes it not report IMEI value causing this and will be sorted out in a later update.
* DISCLAIMER: Using Jolla Store with Jolla Account might break applications on your other devices, use it at your own risk!
* Android support is not available from the Store, even if you can see Android apps listed (those will be removed eventually from store view)
* This functionality means that image comes with only minimal set of pre-installed apps. Use Store to download the ones you need.

* The backlight is dark during first launch, but can be fix by switching the currently-not-working ambient light sensor off (uncheck Settings->System->Display->Adjust automatically)

* When display is blanked, power management sets WLAN to the lowest speed state
* Can be noticed in a SSH-over-WLAN session
* Chat notifications may arrive with a slight delay

Fixes after EA2:
* Watermark removed
* Phone-call audio volume can now be changed with the help of volume buttons
* Improved responsiveness when waking phone up with the power button
* Settings->System->Developer Mode or About Product do not freeze anymore
* Reverted to the original (non-Silica) Fingerterm

Fixes after EA1:
* Phone-calls with audio work
* Timers and alarms (with device powered on) work
* HTML5 video+audio works in Browser (tested splash on http://jolla.com )
* Update is based on SailfishOS version 1.0.5.16

Release notes/Known issues in EA2:
* To securely power off the device, during its boot-up keep Volume Down pressed to enter bootloader mode. Using volume keys, select "Power off" option, then press the Power key
* If not auto-detected from SIM, set-up mobile internet data settings via Settings->System->Mobile network->(long tap on the first toggle-item under "Mobile data" section)->(enter settings given by your operator)

Nexus4-specific known issues reported by the adopters (in EA2):
* Chinese text input not working
* Localhost name is shown as Jolla
* Switching between the online and offline status in the status information setting takes very long and often doesn’t switch properly
* Google contacts which are put together with different information, are now split up into several contacts in Sailfish
* The battery display seems to be a bit buggy because it loses about 15% from one second to another
* The calendar overview when filled with events seems to be a bit laggy
* The email push is not working correctly, I do not receive any emails until I push the refresh button
* Splitting words in the German translation: e.g. in the open apps on the home screen it says: "Kurzzeitmesse" and in the next line the missing "r"
* NOTE: all other Sailfish OS issues have already been reported on TJC - http://together.jolla.com - and many of them were fixed in this 1.0.5.16 release

Release notes/Known Issues in EA1:
* Developer mode is activated at all times
* There has been no throughout testing of telephony related functionality (roaming, airplane mode, etc) and any use of this functionality is at your own risk
* Sensors, Device lock, Reset device, Bluetooth, USB control + MTP, Bluetooth, WLAN hotspot, Camera (photography, video recording), and video playback is not supported in this release
* The image SW is not currently upgradeable, nor is any typically licensed multimedia codecs (MP3, etc), HERE maps, Android application compatibility layer, or word prediction for virtual keyboard preinstalled
* This image does not include any typically licensed multimedia codecs (MP3, etc), HERE maps, Android application compatibility layer, Microsoft Exchange support, or word prediction for virtual keyboard preinstalled
* It is not possible to double-tap to wake up the device
* Powering off device puts it into a state of deep slumber; possible to get out of by holding power button and volume down key with a bit of persistence
* Fingerterm keyboard is not at its best due to the portrait-only mode
* FPS drop while scrolling in homescreen due to non-batching when rendering of application icon grid
* Icons/graphics appear unproportionally small in browser toolbar, time select widget, and Settings favourite icons
* Multiboot/Multirom is not supported yet but we're happy if you would like to teach/help us

We will all meet in #sailfishos-porters (note, new location) on irc.freenode.net and please use us (thp, alterego, Stskeeps, lbt, sledges) to work together, report any bugs, graphical glitches or missing functionality that you find, which are not included in the release notes above. You can also find the hardware adaptation source code at http://github.com/mer-hybris .

You are also welcome to participate in threads at http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general about Nexus 4 and SailfishOS as well as for more general SailfishOS topics at http://forum.xda-developers.com/jolla-sailfish/general

Best regards,
Carsten Munk (Stskeeps) on behalf of the SailfishOS for Everyone team.
Chief Research Engineer @ Jolla

mscion
2014-06-23, 13:16
I believe its just a 'launcher'. So, yes, its basically Android running a new UI (I could be wrong, since the information is not that good, but at least this is what I read from all that does appear so far).

It will be interesting to see what it looks like. There are plenty of launchers in the play store that give a superior experience than what you get by default on android device or, indeed, at least for me, what comes by default on Jolla phone. For example ss launcher combined with the GMD app, which allows gestures like swiping from an edge including moving perpendicular or parallel to edge, gives you great flexibility to create many useful actions.

For me what would be really neat is if they replaced the current recent tasks app on android, that makes a single column of recently used apps, with one that makes an array of recent apps like that on the Jolla phone (although there are actually running tasks on Jolla phone). I'm sure many people would purchase an app like this from the play store.

Dave999
2014-06-23, 15:19
Today is officially announced the 3rd release (Early Adopter Release, EA3) of Sailfish OS for Nexus 4 (mako), see the XDA Developers topic "[April 17] Sailfish OS for early adopters released for Nexus 4" (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53611676&postcount=433).

It has Sailfish OS v1.0.7.16 (released in 09/06/2014), with many improvements for Nexus 4, like watermark removed, phone-call audio volume changed using volume buttons, better waking phone up with the power button, etc.

That was a very long announcement. Linky link :D

amr.fayz
2014-06-23, 15:23
http://www.jollausers.com/2014/03/sailfish-os-early-adopters-have-got-their-email-to-go-crazy/

nieldk
2014-06-23, 15:53
That was a very long announcement. Linky link :D

many posts back

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1430189&postcount=90

jalyst
2014-06-23, 17:15
I believe its just a 'launcher'. So, yes, its basically Android running a new UI (I could be wrong, since the information is not that good, but at least this is what I read from all that does appear so far).

Yup that's pretty much it! :)

jalyst
2014-06-23, 17:18
Today is officially announced the 3rd release (Early Adopter Release, EA3) of Sailfish OS for Nexus 4 (mako),.

Nexus 5? And still no HADK by the sounds of it... :(
Hopefully they can make support for CM bleeding-edge in the future too, instead of always being a few steps behind.

Dave999
2014-06-23, 17:34
Stskeeps migrating to XDA :D Always known he was a Android fanboy ;)

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53611676&postcount=433

jalyst
2014-06-23, 17:57
Yeah I noticed that, tis good that he's engaging bit more there though.
I've posted there, I wonder he or a colleague will see it & respond...

Dave999
2014-06-23, 18:03
I cant call :(. Whoho I CANT CALL :D

mscion
2014-06-23, 18:07
What's the end game here?

Dave999
2014-06-23, 18:09
What's the end game here?

To wait for next realese and be able to make calls. Atleast the watermark is finally gone. Where is the next release?

Please don't say anything. I can't hear you anyway...

rcolistete
2014-06-23, 23:48
Good review of Sailfish 1.0.7.16 on Nexus 4 :
http://www.allboutn9.info/2014/06/sailfish-os-10716-testing-image.html

nieldk
2014-06-24, 07:08
Stskeeps migrating to XDA :D Always known he was a Android fanboy ;)

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53611676&postcount=433

So what, XDA is a good supplement to this forum for Sailfish and Android. Just like there are forums for WP and iOS etc.
Many of us own a sh.. load of devices and do visit multiple forums. I am one LOL.

bill_klpd
2014-06-24, 09:04
Can I ask something? :P

What will happen if I will try to flash the image of Sailfish from Nexus 4 to Galaxy S3?? Will it brick it or it will boot? :p

juiceme
2014-06-24, 09:26
Can I ask something? :P

What will happen if I will try to flash the image of Sailfish from Nexus 4 to Galaxy S3?? Will it brick it or it will boot? :p

I cannot guarantee you will brick it beyond reflashing but there is a high probability for that.
What I can guarantee is that you will not be able to boot it.

nieldk
2014-06-24, 09:26
Can I ask something? :P

What will happen if I will try to flash the image of Sailfish from Nexus 4 to Galaxy S3?? Will it brick it or it will boot? :p

Shouldnt 'brick' as it apparently doesnt do stuff related to the bootloader partitions. Will it work ?
No, the modem for one is different. Which probably will make anything to do with modem useless (at best) = calls, SMS, MMS, data, etc.

nieldk
2014-06-24, 09:27
I cannot guarantee you will brick it beyond reflashing but there is a high probability for that.
What I can guarantee is that you will not be able to boot it.

Brick, most likely not,
Boot, most likely not
Difficult to recove, most likely
Useful no

bill_klpd
2014-06-24, 09:33
I cannot guarantee you will brick it beyond reflashing but there is a high probability for that.
What I can guarantee is that you will not be able to boot it.
What should be done to boot?
I mean there is a video from a Galaxy S3 booting sailfish but no instructions...
The libhybris and the image of Sailfish should be made in a way to fit to the Galaxy S3 's hardware?

I am trying to understand how everything works as I am starting right now :rolleyes:

One more thing, why on the nexus 4 you have to flash a specific image of cyanogenmod, the "mako" one?? Does it have something different from the normal one?

nieldk
2014-06-24, 09:35
the reason for the specifik firmware is the modem

thedead1440
2014-06-24, 10:25
Iirc the i9305 video with sailfish running is posted by thp, the person doing the port, so it's still a non-public thing.

Dave999
2014-06-24, 15:35
So what, XDA is a good supplement to this forum for Sailfish and Android. Just like there are forums for WP and iOS etc.
Many of us own a sh.. load of devices and do visit multiple forums. I am one LOL.

So nothing. It was more of a jokeish. I made the exact same point a few pages back.

bill_klpd
2014-06-24, 15:56
I tried to install the nexus 4 image on my Galaxy S3 just to see what will happen... and nothing happened :p

I just got an error saying that this image is not for my phone.

For porting Sailfish, you have to port both libhyrbis and sailfish on the exact hardware of the phone?

nieldk
2014-06-24, 16:38
I tried to install the nexus 4 image on my Galaxy S3 just to see what will happen... and nothing happened :p

I just got an error saying that this image is not for my phone.

For porting Sailfish, you have to port both libhyrbis and sailfish on the exact software of the phone?

yes, the image contains script that checks that its being installed on Nexus 4 (Mako) and quits if the hardware is not Mako.
You could unpack the image, change the script, repack the image - and get it flashed. But, fairly sure it wont even boot (bootloaders differ)

juiceme
2014-06-24, 16:44
I tried to install the nexus 4 image on my Galaxy S3 just to see what will happen... and nothing happened :p

I just got an error saying that this image is not for my phone.

For porting Sailfish, you have to port both libhyrbis and sailfish on the exact software of the phone?

You will need the HW adaptation for your device. On top of that you can install the generic SailfishOS part.

Dave999
2014-06-24, 19:52
Iirc the i9305 video with sailfish running is posted by thp, the person doing the port, so it's still a non-public thing.

Why is this a non public thing? Will jolla release it? Will thp release under his own flag? Does it really matters...

bill_klpd
2014-06-24, 20:00
Why is this a non public thing? Will jolla release it? Will thp release under his own flag? Does it really matters...
I have to admit that this is a great question!
Maybe he wants to improve it before make it public, who knows :rolleyes:?

It will for sure give us a Sailfish "taste" (even with bugs) if it will be published and I am waiting so much for this! :D
These are some of the times I wish I knew more so that I could be able to port it on my own(the same thing exist for nemo as well :cool:)

I hope it will be available soon! :D

KempeWeidenbaum
2014-06-25, 08:54
I tried to install the nexus 4 image on my Galaxy S3 just to see what will happen... and nothing happened :p

I just got an error saying that this image is not for my phone.

For porting Sailfish, you have to port both libhyrbis and sailfish on the exact hardware of the phone?

Just because I know it:
On Android recovery packages you will find the file to modify in META-inf/ Google/ updater-script.txt
Open with notepad++ and delete the first lines starting with get.prop. Better don't try. I dunt know why I write it here and to what use it will be, but better don't.

bill_klpd
2014-06-25, 10:00
Just because I know it:
On Android recovery packages you will find the file to modify in META-inf/ Google/ updater-script.txt
Open with notepad++ and delete the first lines starting with get.prop. Better don't try. I dunt know why I write it here and to what use it will be, but better don't.
I will most probably not try it, but I want so much to have a working image for sailfish :p

We have been waiting for this for some time :rolleyes:

m4r0v3r
2014-06-25, 17:59
can someone explain something to me, so libhybris converts bionic to glibc, but in programming terms, shouldnt it simply do it for whatever drivers you throw in there, since the conversion seems done at such a abstract level shouldnt it matter?

aironeous
2014-06-28, 03:06
Yeah.
I want to
Run iOS on my Lumia 800
Run WP8.1 on my iPhone 5
Run Ubuntu for devices on my Nexus 4
Run KDE Mobile on my Jolla
Run Android on my Nokia Communicator
Run SailfishOS on my N9's
Run Debian on my N900
Run Symbian^3 on my Chineese dual-sim watch
Run Kali on my iPad Mini
Run Slackware on my Archos tablet

I want to
Run Sailfish OS on the Vixtel Unity tablet/phone/desktop (http://vixtelunity.com/)
Run Extix Distro (http://www.extix.se/) on the HP Slate 21 Pro (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IGM5F7M/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_8?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1CPWE4BUHBCWE)
Run Steam OS (http://store.steampowered.com/steamos/download) on a refurbished upgraded dell 6500 connected to a vidock (http://www.villageinstruments.com/tiki-index.php?page=ViDock) so I can confuse the steam hardware survey by plugging in various graphics cards.

nieldk
2014-06-28, 05:45
I want to
Run Sailfish OS on the Vixtel Unity tablet/phone/desktop (http://vixtelunity.com/)
Run Extix Distro (http://www.extix.se/) on the HP Slate 21 Pro (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IGM5F7M/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_8?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1CPWE4BUHBCWE)
Run Steam OS (http://store.steampowered.com/steamos/download) on a refurbished upgraded dell 6500 connected to a vidock (http://www.villageinstruments.com/tiki-index.php?page=ViDock) so I can confuse the steam hardware survey by plugging in various graphics cards.

I see you got my point there ;)

rcolistete
2014-06-30, 12:59
This new release, v1.0.7.16, of Sailfish for Nexus 4 gives me more than a week of battery use without SIM card (no 2G or 3G), only with WiFi in most of time, light use every day. 6 days of use and it still has 33% of battery. So 11% per day. Excellent work, Jolla sailors !

rcolistete
2014-06-30, 14:48
About video and MP3 for Sailfish EA3 on Nexus 4 :
- see "Sailfish General > Q&A / Index sailfish on n4 thread (and other devices)" (http://forum.xda-developers.com/jolla-sailfish/general/qa-sailfish-n4-thread-devices-t2727330) or follow the steps below;
- video (but it sometimes lags) : using Warehouse, go to "Categories" (swipe to left), navigate/search to install "Libraries-gst-plugins-bad-extra" (https://openrepos.net/content/sailfishlib/gst-plugins-bad-extra) (enable "sailfish_lib" repo then install it) and "Applications->System->Ultimate Codec Support" (https://openrepos.net/content/xerxes2/ultimate-codec-support) (enable "xerxes2" repo then install it);
- MP3 : download "gst-fluendo-mp3-0.10.23-1.armv7hl.rpm" (http://enlisy.org/~xerxes2/pkg/sailfish/armv7hl/rpms/gst-fluendo-mp3-0.10.23-1.armv7hl.rpm) from xerxes2 repository (http://enlisy.org/~xerxes2/pkg/sailfish/armv7hl/rpms/), copy it to Sailfish, install using "pkcon install-local gst-fluendo-mp3-0.10.23-1.armv7hl.rpm" in Terminal.

mscion
2014-07-05, 15:36
Well, I got ahold of the Jolla Launcher for android on XDA and installed it on my Galaxy Note 3. First thing I found is that it was really glitchy on the custom rom I normally use. But I changed to a stock deodexed version I had and it worked pretty well. The HD wall paper looks good. When you close an app it generally shows the app icon in the running apps grid. I prefer the Jolla grid over the column you get when you check recent tasks on android. Wish I could simply replace the android recent apps with the Jolla grid. When I start to close an app it nicely makes the transition to the grid of "running" apps. You can go back and forth over a small distance so that transition looks good. One thing is that it did not quite work exactly like on the Jolla phone because I had to lay my finger on the edge to make it work instead of just using the the point of my finger. But it still worked effectively. The maximum number of recent apps tiles seemed to be limited to 6. Not sure how to change that at this point. The pull down menu worked but there was no option for system. The swipe down on my phone still worked so I could get to android related settings and system stuff the usual way. Scrolling was a little laggy as I'm sure there is a bit of overhead to get this to work on andriod. One thing is that if you scroll up to get to your apps, there is no Jolla gesture to get you immediatley back to home page. This may be a little annoying for someone with a lot of apps. For daily drive I currently use the tweaked rom, ss launcher with gmd for swipe gestures. Overally this combination is still better for me than using Jolla Launcher. Regardless, once the performance is improved, some more features are added making it more customizable I think this launcher will be a real winner.


EDIT: Just a brief update. I was able to make 9 tiles on the home screen. And it seems that when you repeatedly use an app a snapshot of your more recent screen is eventually used as the tile. It still seems awkward when you start up an app there is a transition to the home screen with the tiles and then the app opens.

Kangal
2014-07-05, 16:01
@riyono

Looks like you just made it to the front page at xda, congrats!

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/jolla-phone-launcher-ported-to-all-devices-running-android-4-2/

Dave999
2014-07-05, 16:11
Its very unuserfreindly now :D glitches, boot loops and lag but WHO cares? I still beleive in a real port rather than lancher...still intressting move by jolla. Me likes.

jalyst
2014-07-05, 17:19
@riyono

Looks like you just made it to the front page at xda, congrats!

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/jolla-phone-launcher-ported-to-all-devices-running-android-4-2/

Looks like Jolla is about to get a whole lot busier...
Or at least a whole lot more whining from a user-base they hadn't intended (or are ready) to support.

jalyst
2014-07-05, 17:21
Its very unuserfreindly now :D glitches, boot loops and lag but WHO cares? I still beleive in a real port rather than lancher...still intressting move by jolla. Me likes.

What are you talking about, the launder doesn't cause boot-loops, that occurs -sometimes- with Sailfish itself (& the port too possibly).

Dave999
2014-07-05, 17:47
What are you talking about, the launder doesn't cause boot-loops, that occurs -sometimes- with Sailfish itself (& the port too possibly).

Well, you have to hard reset over and over again in a manual Reboot loop if that makes It clear to you. But that is probobly related to Roms and android versions.

bigfatdeal
2014-07-05, 20:53
Yeah it is a bit buggy (crashes randomly every once in a while, side swipes sometimes stop working, notifications stop showing up, no notification screen) but it (kind of) works! I was pleasantly surprised with it (not bad for Alpha version) and I'm using it purely as an email-checking-on-wifi device. My N9 is unusable for email now.

I got the apk from the XDA thread I'm using it on a galaxy nexus with a freshly flashed Paranoid Android 4.4 ROM.

Jolla releasing the launcher is a good thing IMO because it got me excited about Sailfish when I was just about beginning to get tired of it. I can't wait for the HADK to be released now.

OT: Anyone manage to get Ubuntu Touch (trusty) running on a Galaxy Nexus? I've tried and failed multiple times.

bill_klpd
2014-07-06, 13:07
I just installed it in cyanogenmod11 on galaxy s3(gt-i9300) and it seems pretty smooth until now(5mins :p)!

There are some things that I don't really like, because it is a launcher... Some of them are the status bar of android... When you swipe from the top it is visible even in the jolla launcher and it is a little ugly...

I also thought that the whole "swipe" thing that it gets you from the app to the opened apps would work with the launcher but it doesn't... :p

I know it is not ready yet but I would love to see this in the launcher, and even more I would love to install real jolla on my phone :D
Come on, it is summer :p

Edit: I found one more "bug". Whenever I lock my phone it usually does a small sound with every other launcher, but with jolla launcher it does the same sound and then it does 4 more times faster again the same sound... Does anyone noticed that?

szopin
2014-07-06, 18:54
Same thing reported in the xda forum in riyonos topic, though only double sound (like when plugging jolla for just charging to a pc)

jalyst
2014-07-13, 15:56
Anyone heard anything more about the status of the HADK; plus progress on the Nexus 5 port?

Dave999
2014-07-13, 17:00
Anyone heard anything more about the status of the HADK; plus progress on the Nexus 5 port?

I heard its vacation now. Noone working:D

nieldk
2014-07-13, 18:09
Anyone heard anything more about the status of the HADK; plus progress on the Nexus 5 port?

this may indicate the progress ;)
https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris

jalyst
2014-07-14, 06:37
Yeah but what about the HADK...
Looks like there been little-to-no progress for the N5 since I last looked at that chart.

nieldk
2014-07-14, 06:46
Yeah but what about the HADK...
Looks like there been little-to-no progress for the N5 since I last looked at that chart.

yes, At least what is public, even finding an image not-public seems impossible.
But, then again, on my Nexus 4 its hardly usable as it is now.

jalyst
2014-07-14, 08:45
Sigh, if the N4's still hardly usable, then even the very latest N5 image is going to be a complete PIA.
I really don't see how this "strategy" it paying-off for them, certainly for the resources it's sucking...
The sooner they get an excellent HADK out the better, then maybe the wider Android world can take (at least some) of the load.

nh1402
2014-07-14, 12:15
Well there is a download link to the Nexus 5 port in its current state over at xda if you go into Nexus 5 General -> jolla developer ports sailfish os to nexus 5, then go to the bottom of page 6, but that is now an older version of the sailfish OS, although the latest sources seem to be available to update the rom, I'm not sure how to build it.

If someone has instructions to build the sailfish rom, then it would be greatly appreciated, since this is my first post, I doubt that I can post links otherwise, I would have given you a direct link to the nexus 5 sailfish os rom, the github account of where to build, and a link to the modified kickstarter file that I made (based from the one found in the github repo, to build the latest version for the nexus 5.

nieldk
2014-07-14, 12:46
well, the link for 1.0.5.16 is in this post

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53018643&postcount=60

nh1402
2014-07-14, 13:22
yes, and if you look a few posts above that I have put a link for the repo, if you look at the kickstarter file and change the sailfish version from 1.0.5.16 to 1.0.7.16 then it should still work, as I checked the URL, and it seemed to be valid.

But i don't know how to build the rom.

EDIT: changing from 1.0.5.16 to 1.0.8.19 should also work as of yesterday, going to try and build again tomorrow, although remember I don't know what I'm doing ;)

mscion
2014-07-18, 12:00
Get to work folks!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/jolla-sailfish/general/hakd-release-1-0-t2820012?goto=newpost

bill_klpd
2014-07-18, 12:02
Get to work folks!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/jolla-sailfish/general/hakd-release-1-0-t2820012?goto=newpost
These are some great news! Can't wait to test jolla on my GS3 :cool:

jalyst
2014-07-18, 15:17
Get to work folks!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/jolla-sailfish/general/hakd-release-1-0-t2820012?goto=newpost

Awesome, some more links here:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Jolla/comments/2b18uo/hardware_adaptation_dev_kit_10_for_sailfishos_pdf/
http://releases.sailfishos.org/sfa-ea/2014-07-18_SailfishOSHardwareAdaptationDevelopmentKit.pdf

jalyst
2014-08-04, 08:57
For those with a Nexus 5...
https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Building_Sailfish_OS_for_Nexus_5

This list is getting bigger (& progressing) now too:
https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris

To see how things are progressing, check out the #sailfish-ports IRC logs:
http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/details.php?net=freenode&room=%23sailfishos-porters

misterc
2014-08-04, 10:55
how about porting to a device with a hardware (QWERTY) keyboard?

Dave999
2014-08-04, 11:10
how about porting to a device with a hardware (QWERTY) keyboard?

How about getting it working great on any device first?

smoku
2014-08-04, 11:28
To see how things are progressing, check out the #sailfish-ports IRC logs:
http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/details.php?net=freenode&room=%23sailfishos-porters

s/sailfish-ports/sailfishos-porters/

jalyst
2014-08-04, 16:52
s/sailfish-ports/sailfishos-porters/

Huh? 10char

bigfatdeal
2014-08-04, 19:09
Huh? 10char

Your original message should read sailfishos-porters not sailfish-ports.

-------------------------------------
Originally Posted by jalyst

To see how things are progressing, check out the #sailfish-ports IRC logs:
--------------------------------------


Anyone else using the alpha release on the Galaxy Nexus? I flashed it last night (surprisingly easy to do, unlike Ubuntu Touch which I never got working in the end). I haven't put my daily driver sim in it, and I'm using it on wifi only, but it seems to be pretty stable so far.

akira.pwr
2014-08-04, 20:39
For those with a Nexus 5...
https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Building_Sailfish_OS_for_Nexus_5

This list is getting bigger (& progressing) now too:
https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris

To see how things are progressing, check out the #sailfish-ports IRC logs:
http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/details.php?net=freenode&room=%23sailfishos-porters

Do you know if there is an updated build for N5? I'm not into IRC or code...

jalyst
2014-08-05, 04:50
^Best to checkout IRC, it's not that hard to set-up, quite easy actually.

misterc
2014-08-05, 08:49
is the (final?) answer then that Jolla has given up on hardware keyboard?

Dave999
2014-08-05, 09:44
is the (final?) answer then that Jolla has given up on hardware keyboard?

Given up? It has never even been on their radar. Why not buy a jolla and a keyboard from dirk?

misterc
2014-08-05, 16:02
just to set the record straight...
several times during 2013 Jolla "top brasses" mentioned that a hardware keyboard TOH was a very real possibility.
any other company one would call it "marketing crap" but i guess considering Jolla's "stop losses" strategy since beginning of the year, one could call it "vaporware" :mad: :confused: :(

looks pretty much like soon Jolla itself is just going to be bitter memory...

ps: o, yeah, that community rubbish, were most of the keyboards had defective or poorly working keys?

EDIT: oki doki, apologies for missing Dirk's 2nd / new project. if it wasn't for an update to his project thread (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93156) just after i typed this wouldn't even know about it (yet)...
o well, a troll is a troll...
when typing that i was still under the impression that it was "three in one"... the 1st, the only and the last one :eek: :p
my mistake :D :rolleyes:

well, that may be the real cause for Jolla's trouble... fantasising that "community" is going to be their "business model" ¦-))))))))
as i already mentioned elsewhere, they obviously didn't learn anything from the Maemo debacle @ NOKIA - gawd knows they had the best seats to follow it...
no brain, no pain?

EDIT: still for Jolla to pool, for example, in Communicator fan boys / nostalgics, i think Dirk will have to seriously scale up operations... well, @ least he has a business model :D :cool: ;)

jalyst
2014-08-05, 17:24
They've never said officially that a keyb TOH is definitely coming, they've agreed it might be a good idea, & something they may consider, nothing more.
They have welcomed the work done by dirk & others, & helped in small ways, but that's about as far as the extent of their involvement...
Will it come one day? Who knows. God knows they've been juggling a sh1t-load in the last 24mths, especially the last ~6, & it's only getting crazier.

I do agree though that they need far more substantive TOH hw &/or partners*, what they've delivered so far are little more than gimmicks...
We're yet to hear the full (& more interesting) story when it comes to TOH's, IMO it's due by Dec. at the latest, else they won't have delivered on the early promise/potential of TOH.
Personally I'm more interested in other TOH's, but a qwerty one is no doubt one of the most popular TOH's, if not the most popular one...


*that's partly why they'll prolly need to stick to the same form-factor for the J2, you don't build-up an accessory ecosystem by constantly changing form-factors, as Apple knows

misterc
2014-08-05, 17:52
They've never said officially that a keyb TOH is definitely coming, they've agreed it might be a good idea, & something they may consider, nothing more.

They have welcomed the work done by dirk & others, & helped in small ways, but that's about as far as the extent of their involvement...

Will it come one day? Who knows. God knows they've been juggling a sh1t-load in the last 24mths, especially the last ~6, & it's only getting crazier.

˝ way [off topic], so let's try to keep it short...

crazy?
like in keeping a project in the air for ˝ a dozen yrs without ever considering making it commercially viable until, well, until it was too late?
not sure Jolla can afford that, even until the end of the year, i'm afraid :eek: :( :confused:
in fact, from the dramatic price drops and desperate entries in new markets (India, China (?), HK), pretty darn sure they can't

crazy?
like in just having commited over 100€ to a (most likely) new Neo900 (board) this very morning & realizing this PM that i could actually get a hardware keyboard for my Jolla for... well, comparable amount - thus saving over 500€, give or take? :eek: :mad:
then again, Sailfish isn't and never will be Maemo Fremantle... >¦-)

crazy?
like having spent over 200€ on a Moto Photon Q (with cyanogenmod) and falling back on my 1st N900 with damaged sliding mechanism less then a month latter simply because nothing will ever (again) be like this little computer in our pocket, running a pretty much full fledged Linux based OS :.|
so crazy that over 300 ppl are willing to spend 700 or more €s to get a Neo900...

pick your choice :rolleyes:

jalyst
2014-08-05, 17:55
Re-read my updated post before jumping the gun, once again...
You'll find there's more common ground in our perspectives than differences.

misterc
2014-08-05, 18:04
[...]

I do agree though that they need far more substantive TOH hw &/or partners*, what they've delivered so far are little more than gimmicks...
We're yet to hear the full (& more interesting) story when it comes to TOH's, IMO it's due by Dec. at the latest, else they won't have delivered on the early promise/potential of TOH.
Personally I'm more interested in other TOH's, but a qwerty one is no doubt one of the most popular TOH's, if not the most popular one...
(see previous post (http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1434947&postcount=195)...)

they don't have until the end of the year, as i already pointed out in last couple posts... they can't afford this "community strategy" anymore :( that was okay / cute while Symbian was earning the butter & bread, but now? too late



*that's partly why they'll prolly need to stick to the same form-factor for the J2, you don't build-up an accessory ecosystem by constantly changing form-factors, as Apple knows

if memory serves well, J2 won't have TOH... thus moot point
you don't (really) expect them to all of a sudden go into offensive, do you?
since beginning of the year, their strategy has been one of retreat :( :mad: :.(
not a good strategy for a start up :|

EDIT:
Re-read my updated post before jumping the gun, once again...
You'll find there's more common ground in our perspectives than differences.

copy that ¦-)
than again, common ground might more be fundamental differences, no?

misterc
2014-08-05, 18:16
to put it bluntly, Jolla is dead
or more phlegmatically running out of resources.
bleeding capital.
then can't even afford to sell the Jolla at a cost covering price, and they certainly won't be able to do that in markets where devices have to be cheaper
a SGS3 is about 20'000 rupees
that's less then the 250€ the Jolla cost now
and they should earn the money to dev a J2?!?
wake up

EDIT: correct that... 250€ is SGS3...
EDIT2: which is (slightly) cheaper in India

jalyst
2014-08-05, 18:21
Sigh FFS, do not respond to this please, send me a PM if you want to continue discussing, this is already waaay OT...

(see previous post (http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1434947&postcount=195)...)

they don't have until the end of the year, as i already pointed out in last couple posts... they can't afford this "community strategy" anymore :( that was okay / cute while Symbian was earning the butter & bread, but now? too late

I said that was the latest, & they did hint about ~2mth back that they hoped to make an announcement relating to TOH round about then. You don't have any intimate knowledge of their financial state, I only say then at the latest not because I know the state of their books, but merely because that's about the latest before they start to lose currency when it comes to delivering a credible TOH story. It might be as late as that simply because they're also trying to smooth out several other projects (& no I won't outline them, this is already crazy OT), ideally it'll be sooner than Dec, if it's later I think it'll hurt them too much.

if memory serves well, J2 won't have TOH... thus moot point
you don't (really) expect them to all of a sudden go into offensive, do you?
since beginning of the year, their strategy has been one of retreat :( :mad: :.(
not a good strategy for a start up :|

There's no solid info. on what shape the J2 will take, only pure speculation & conjecture, they may drop TOH, but it'd be a mistake & a waste of LOTS of time/resources expended if they do so IMO. They need to at least see it through properly first, measure the effectiveness (or lack there-of), & then abandon it if it's clearly not helping. I've no idea what you're rambling on about in your last 3 sentences, I'm sorry.


then can't even afford to sell the Jolla at a cost covering price, and they certainly won't be able to do that in markets where devices have to be cheaper
a SGS3 is about 20'000 rupees
that's less then the 250€ the Jolla cost now
and they should earn the money to dev a J2?!?
wake up
EDIT: correct that... 250€ is SGS3...
EDIT2: which is (slightly) cheaper in India

And, you're massively assuming what the J1's RRP & ultimate street price will be in India...
We don't know that yet, for all we know it may only be modest mark-up to similarly spec'd Android devices.
They probably can't afford to undercut, but a modest mark-up might be do-able for them...
If they equalised or undercut it'd hurt them too much I suspect, as they have way more overheads than a Chinese (or similar) ODM.
But who knows, maybe they've cut some really good deals lately, you/I simply don't know...

ever heard the expression
???
the Jolla folks had a free lunch (for 6 years) when they were @ NOKIA.
no more

You trying to claim that all they've done/achieved so far, is mainly because of what they did whist still at Nokia, & due to all the $/resources they had available to them then.*
If you are you'd be wrong, the vast majority of what they've achieved so far, has come from B.S.T tears "post" Nokia, there was little ground work in place to "set them up" for Sailfish.

unless... (http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1434958&postcount=200)

You've got to be kidding me, go back to Nokia, f5ck no, that'd be like... amongst the dumbest things ever...
There's MANY other potential (& likely better) suitors, besides, it's too early/hard to say yet whether that's even necessary.
Please, enough with the silly little additions to your posts, it's still the same thing as continuing OT posts, as I said, PM me if you want to continue discussing this.

*haha that's funny

misterc
2014-08-05, 18:23
indeed, the only future for Jolla Oy is as a (software) department of... NOKIA Oy
:-{

http://uphillwriting.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/circular-reasoning-works-because.jpg

EDIT(2): (and that's NOT [OT])
EDIT3: then again, who gives a F### about Sailfish OS on a Nexus for gawd crying out loud?!?
EDIT4: admittedly, our house troll would have a point... SailfishOS has to run on any cheap crappy Android device, to attract that kind of manufacturer... sad, isn't it?
EDIT5: and that's not gona pay the bills, not @ the end of the year and not ever >¦-)
EDIT6: end of topic?

EDIT7: [...]
If they equalised or undercut it'd hurt them too much I suspect, as they have way more overheads than a Chinese (or similar) ODM.
But who knows, maybe they've cut some really good deals lately, you/I simply don't know...

ever heard the expression
there is no free lunch???
the Jolla folks had a free lunch (for 6 years) when they were @ NOKIA.
no more
unless... (http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1434958&postcount=200)

misterc
2014-08-05, 18:54
maybe i should update my footer.... mega troll?

and silence there was.... ¦-)

rcolistete
2014-08-08, 22:52
Today (08/08/2014) the Nexus 5 alpha version of Sailfish (1.0.8.19) was released :
- download & install Sailfish on Nexus 5 (https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris/Install_SailfishOS_for_hammerhead);
News :
http://siteshwar.github.io/posts/sailfish-os-nexus5-alpha1/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/development/rom-sailfish-os-alpha-t2841266
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/development/rom-sailfish-os-alpha-t2841266)What is working :
https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bud6T3JIgAAPyy0.jpg

m4r0v3r
2014-08-09, 08:50
yeahhhhh buuddyyy

bill_klpd
2014-08-17, 12:04
If you haven't seen it yet, rusty88 from xda has made an image of sailfish for GS3!
Here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/jolla-sailfish/general/jolla-sailfish-os-gs3-t2028133/page7) are some more instructions and the download link for the image if anyone wants to give it a try :D

jalyst
2014-08-17, 12:45
Thanks everyone for sharing here what's happening at xda-dev, & elsewhere.
IIRC I saw a OnePlus One port commencing, & some other major makes/models.

mscion
2014-08-19, 21:56
Any news on the Jolla Launcher for Android. As I recollect, a beta version was going to be released in August. Thanks!

bill_klpd
2014-08-19, 22:07
Any news on the Jolla Launcher for Android. As I recollect, a beta version was going to be released in August. Thanks!
Where did you see that??
The only things I think that are available are some apks to install on an xda thread (some are custom with some more ambiences if you haven't seen them)...

jalyst
2014-08-20, 04:55
Any news on the Jolla Launcher for Android. As I recollect, a beta version was going to be released in August. Thanks!

There really needs to be a Jolla Launcher thread @TMO for the folks who actually care about that... :rolleyes:

bill_klpd
2014-08-20, 12:42
There really needs to be a Jolla Launcher thread @TMO for the folks who actually care about that... :rolleyes:
Why don't you make one?
The only bad/weird thing is that there are also people doing some work on this on the xda forums and it's a pity that we can't/don't work together...
We could do something better!

P.S: Some guys there were talking about how to add more ambiences. So you had to decompile the package. It was the first time hearing about decompiling, so I have one question... When you decompile a package, does this mean you can see the whole source code, the one that the developers had wrote from the first time? If yes, why some times we bother about open source programs if it is easy to see the source code?? Sorry for this silly question :D

mscion
2014-08-20, 13:19
Where did you see that??
The only things I think that are available are some apks to install on an xda thread (some are custom with some more ambiences if you haven't seen them)...

It was mentioned in post 32 of this xda thread

http://forum.xda-developers.com/jolla-sailfish/general/jolla-launcher-making-t2795771

Not sure what their source is but I thought I saw it elsewhere too (not that it makes it true!)

There have been two releases that I know of. I've tried them on my note 3 and galaxy tab pro 8.4. The first release seem to work ok but the second seemed to crash a bit too much. Currently, for me, other launchers (like ss launcher) combined with some Xposed modules (like swipe) give a better overall experience. When Android L comes out, my guess is that the gap will widen.

I just got hold of a nexus so I hope to try out sailfish on it in the near future. I actually have a Jolla phone but don't use it as a daily drive. More fun just trying to get Sailfish to work on other hardware.

I kind of wish the N9 OS could be ported to android. That was about the best overall experience for me. Very well thought out.

jalyst
2014-08-20, 13:38
Why don't you make one?
The only bad/weird thing is that there are also people doing some work on this on the xda forums and it's a pity that we can't/don't work together...
We could do something better!

Personally, I'm not very interested in that area, even on my Android devices...
But there clearly needs to be one for those who are, so that it can be discussed in that thread instead of here.
Perhaps some of the regulars at the sister xda-dev threads, can be encouraged to sign-up/post @TMO too.

bill_klpd
2014-08-20, 13:46
Personally, I'm not very interested in that area, even on my Android devices...
But there clearly needs to be one for those who are, so that it can be discussed in that thread instead of here.
Perhaps some of the regulars at the sister xda-dev threads, can be encouraged to sign-up/post @TMO too.
This is the reason I signed up to xda too (and because right now I only has an android phone)..

Personally I care more about a working image for android phones instead of the launcher but it is nice to have a nice launcher that works good as well!
I already installed jolla on GS3 just to test it, but without sim support(yet ;)) I went directly back to android.

jalyst
2014-08-20, 15:17
I guess the launcher's still important in that it helps with greater awareness of Sailfish, but if they're going to do it, they better do it well. If it's done badly it might actually hurt them more than it helps, personally I think they should focus most of their (very limited) resources on the ports.

Anyway, my point is that launcher talk needs it's own thread, it shouldn't be continually raised here, folks are sub'd to this thread so that they can read/post about the ports. If they also want to read/post about the launcher, then they're welcome to start & sub. to a new thread for that. ;)

P.S.
I'm not criticising anyone in particular, we're all human & we all break forum netiquette occasionally, accidentally or otherwise

rcolistete
2014-08-26, 17:42
New alpha 3 version of Sailfish 1.0.8.19 for Nexus 5 was released in 18/08/2014, supporting :
- Bluetooth;
- Allow untrusted software;
- Filemanager app;
- USB connection dialogue: Developer mode, USB tethering, charging, ...;
- Devicelock.

Now there is an option to install Sailfish with multiboot.

Today (08/08/2014) the Nexus 5 alpha version of Sailfish (1.0.8.19) was released :
- download & install Sailfish on Nexus 5 (https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris/Install_SailfishOS_for_hammerhead);
News :
http://siteshwar.github.io/posts/sailfish-os-nexus5-alpha1/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/development/rom-sailfish-os-alpha-t2841266
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/development/rom-sailfish-os-alpha-t2841266)What is working :
https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bud6T3JIgAAPyy0.jpg

minimos
2014-08-29, 15:47
From a stskeeps' retweet I discovered there is a Sailfish alpha image for Nexus 7 (grouper):
https://twitter.com/junnuvi/status/504001299202199552
Has anybody tried it?

tunap
2014-08-29, 18:10
Early Adopters 4[1] was released for Nexus 4(Mako) yesterday. I was up late installing, tweaking settings & crashing(trying to). Prelim I've verified working without error so far: talk, text, wifi & mobile data(3G/T-mobile/USA). Display customizations, sys sounds & vibrate all look good. I think I'm going to retire my n900 this long, holiday weekend...
Oh yeah, this is also running as an alternate using MultiROM[3].


Having troubles with tethering(native & JollaStore app), camera works for awhile but eventually freezes/crashes and cannot get bluetooth to start. Video's going to take some work(3rd party codecs/apps), but mp3 codec was quick & painless to fix[2].
I'm sure there's more, but it's a lot less than EA3 and this is just prelim UI feedback, I haven't looked under the hood yet.

Great job to all the people working on these ports!!!!!
Fantastic work, thank you.


[1]EA4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/development/rom-sailfish-os-adopter-t2861054?nocache=1

[2]MP3 codec
http://forum.xda-developers.com/jolla-sailfish/general/how-to-play-mp3-files-sailfish-nexus-4-t2721538

[3]MultiROM supports SailfishOS now, too!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/orig-development/mod-multirom-v24-t2472295

tunap
2014-08-29, 18:16
Early Adopters 4[1] was released for Nexus 4(Mako) yesterday. I was up late installing, tweaking settings & crashing(trying to). Prelim I've verified working without error so far: talk, text, wifi & mobile data(3G/T-mobile/USA). Display customizations, sys sounds & vibrate all 5x5. I think I'm going to retire my n900 this long, holiday weekend...

Oh yeah, this is also running as an alternate OS using MultiROM[3].


Having troubles with tethering(native & JollaStore app), camera works for awhile but eventually freezes/crashes and cannot get bluetooth to start. Video's going to take some work(3rd party codecs/apps), but mp3 codec was quick & painless to fix[2].
I'm sure there's more, but it's a lot less than EA3 and this is just prelim UI feedback, I haven't looked under the hood yet.

Great job to all the people working on these ports!!!!!
Fantastic work, thank you.


[1]EA4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/development/rom-sailfish-os-adopter-t2861054?nocache=1

[2]MP3 codec
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92506&page=17

[3]MultiROM now supports SailfishOS on Mako!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/orig-development/mod-multirom-v24-t2472295

junnuvi
2014-08-30, 21:06
From a stskeeps' retweet I discovered there is a Sailfish alpha image for Nexus 7 (grouper):
https://twitter.com/junnuvi/status/504001299202199552
Has anybody tried it?

That's true. Here is link for more information about port (and download links): http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-7/development/rom-sailfish-os-alpha-t2859817

Demati
2014-09-18, 01:19
4G/LTE data is not working (but voice is and 3G data works just fine)


I just want to share that I got 4G working by tweaking the APN settings. For anyone trying out Sailfish on an Androind device on T-Mobile try the following:

1. Go to Settings -> system -> mobile network
2. Long press Internet/WebConnect and select Edit
3. Enter the APN as: fast.t-mobile.com

Kangal
2014-09-18, 09:09
Interesting, more Android devices to load Sailfish OS on:

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/mediatek-android-one-source/

sledgeas
2014-09-23, 13:07
Hellow fellows! Happy to share this with you:

First hardware keyboard phone HTC DesireZ got a SailfishOS port!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByN0y1TIEAAlQH_.jpg

More news: http://bit.ly/port-news

Come and say hello at #sailfishos-porters on Freenode


Cheers,
Sim

rcolistete
2014-12-22, 16:24
Sailfish OS 1.1.0.39 beta 1 for Nexus 4 (mako) was released in December 11th 2014 :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/development/rom-sailfish-os-community-port-t2969823

Known issues :
- OTA Updates do not work;
- the camera does not fully work;
- Android app support is not available.

rcolistete
2014-12-22, 16:27
Sailfish OS 1.1.0.39 alpha 4 for Nexus 5 (hammerhead) was released in December 18th 2014 :
https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris/Install_SailfishOS_for_hammerhead
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/development/rom-sailfish-os-alpha-t2841266

Known issues :
- OTA Updates do not work;
- the camera does not work;
- Android app support is not available.

Changelog:
* 2014-11-27 MultirROM users: if your primary ROM is Lollipop based, just install any SailfishOS version accompanied with CM11 .zip, and you'll have best of both worlds working! Thanks to @julle131 for finding this!
* Alpha4 - 18 December :
- Jolla Store enabled (but do not add Jolla Account during start-up wizard, skip and then add later, due to a known issue);
- Sailfish OS Update 9;
- Magnetometer support;
- Improved BT HID support (US bt keyboard layout provided);
- Generic BT improvements;

jalyst
2014-12-23, 03:18
I hope it comes to the Galaxy Note 4 eventually, I don't think I'll end up getting the Nexus 6.
I'm in no rush to put Sailfish on it, but hopefully approx. 1-yr from now it'll be possible...
By then though we might finally have the Jolla 2, so I'll prolly buy it, plus a nextgen Android handset.

minimos
2015-01-11, 16:28
I did read in the past that there was MultiROM support for Sailfish on e.g. Nexus 4, but I did not see any comment whether it works also on Nexus 7 2012 Wifi.
Well, I tried it and I can confirm that it does :D

http://i60.tinypic.com/b8n7eb.jpg

It looks a bit weird to interact with a Sailfish UI scaled up 1.5x times from the Jolla device, but it feels otherwise 'home'.

francesco VE
2015-01-11, 23:02
can o b possible to install sailfish on galaxy note edge on the future?

juiceme
2015-01-12, 07:29
can o b possible to install sailfish on galaxy note edge on the future?

Well as for currently looking at the CM support page for Samsung Note models the edge is not out yet: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Devices#vendor=%22Samsung%22;type=%22phablet%22;
However it has been reported to be under development.

So, answer it probably yes.

rcolistete
2015-01-16, 20:36
Sailfish OS 1.1.1.27 alpha 5 for Nexus 5 (hammerhead) was released in January 14th 2015 :
Adaptations/libhybris/Install SailfishOS for hammerhead (https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris/Install_SailfishOS_for_hammerhead)
[ROM] [14Jan] [GNU/Linux] Sailfish OS (Alpha) - now with MultiROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/goog...alpha-t2841266)

Known issues :
- OTA Updates do not work;
- the camera does not work;
- Android app support is not available.

Changelog:
* 2014-11-27 MultirROM users: if your primary ROM is Lollipop based, just install any SailfishOS version accompanied with CM11 .zip, and you'll have best of both worlds working! Thanks to @julle131 for finding this!
* Alpha5 - 14 January 2015
- WLAN remembers last connected AP after reboot - bug fixed
- Sailfish OS Update 10
- Fingerterm app scaled to the screen size
- Help us close this bug down - I could not reproduce it during 1st bootup
* Alpha4 - 18 December :
- Jolla Store enabled (but do not add Jolla Account during start-up wizard, skip and then add later, due to a known issue);
- Sailfish OS Update 9;
- Magnetometer support;
- Improved BT HID support (US bt keyboard layout provided);
- Generic BT improvements;

mscion
2015-01-16, 20:59
can o b possible to install sailfish on galaxy note edge on the future?

This is not the same as installing sailfish but, for fun I tried the Jolla Launcher that was in development a while back on my Edge. It actually worked pretty well but the scale was a bit off. The icons looked too big and the app drawer needs to have at least 5 columns. Don't know if there is any more development on the launcher but it would be a nice alternative to what is out there.

rcolistete
2015-01-31, 15:54
Sailfish OS 1.1.1.27 beta3 for Nexus 4 (mako) was released in January 28/29th 2015 :
(Nexus 4) [ROM][29Jan][GNU/Linux] Sailfish OS (community port) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/development/rom-sailfish-os-community-port-t2969823)

Release Notes:
28 January 2015: Basic Bluetooth support works (pairing and file transfer)
Another new feature is backup working between Sailfish versions (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58500045&postcount=67) :
Also you'll be able now to create a backup and transfer it. This means if you'll upgrade to a new release you can restore you're jolla backup. Hey that's great. Read more on:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/jolla-sailfish/general/qa-sailfish-n4-thread-devices-t2727330 #13

Known issues, as before :
- OTA Updates do not work;
- the camera does not fully work;
- Android app support is not available.

jalyst
2015-02-07, 18:39
Is Nexus 5 almost ready for prime time, I might buy a 2nd-hand one, chuck Sailfish on it, & use it alongside my Note 4. :)

jflatt
2015-02-12, 00:59
Is Nexus 5 almost ready for prime time, I might buy a 2nd-hand one, chuck Sailfish on it, & use it alongside my Note 4. :)Nexus 4 works quite well

jalyst
2015-02-12, 05:02
Nexus 4 works quite well

Nah, more interested in N5...

Jedibeeftrix
2015-02-12, 12:24
that is what I have, would love to stick sailfish on it.

m4r0v3r
2015-02-14, 13:17
Nah, more interested in N5...

ive had exactly same thought ,bought a nexus 5 with broken sim slot to mess around with. the camera still doesnt work though and the sensors are all ???

jalyst
2015-02-14, 13:50
Yeah, moving sloooooowly, wish they wouldn't prioritise N4 quite so heavily... :-/
Jolla's getting quite cheap now though, if they haven't released a J2 by the end of this year, & if I can get over the frustration of that, I may buy a Jolla instead.

m4r0v3r
2015-02-14, 18:09
the main reason i want a nexus 5, is for te screen and ram, in sunlight I cant really read the Jolla screen, and I've had enough of the new ram managment system killing the browser or whatever am listening to.

Demati
2015-02-16, 12:49
I'm still running Sailfish on my Nexus 5. I haven't had any issue with it as a daily driver (other than the camera).

I had bluetooth issues early on but those issues were resolved with Alpha 4. There is no way I can think of to test GPS as there is no Android compatibility (so I can't install Google Maps or Here Maps).

I don't use navigation on a daily basis and I have another device for a camera so I don't really miss running Android. My installation is also via multirom so if push came to shove and I needed navigation I can always boot over to Android.

If you have any questions feel free to ask me and I can report back here. I am currently running Alpha 6 on my Nexus 5.

pagis
2015-06-24, 21:34
has anyone tried to port sailfisOS to Amazon firephone?

m4r0v3r
2015-06-26, 12:32
does it have a cm11 port?

fin2cv
2015-11-01, 19:16
Has anyone thought of porting Sailfish on Huawei Honor 7?

juiceme
2015-11-02, 14:12
Has anyone thought of porting Sailfish on Huawei Honor 7?

You should ask that on freenode #sailfishos-porters, that's where porters live and breathe :D