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#31
Originally Posted by OrangeBox View Post
Absoultely false. Firefox is nowhere near in adoption levels and overall stability to IE8.
Yup... Ok.
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Originally Posted by Rob1n View Post
Not at all, there's a lot you can do with pure Apache (or using PHP, perl, etc for dynamic page generation). If you need a middle tier, there's Apache Tomcat, or JBoss. No need for anything commercial in there.
Sure, use PHP with mySQL that has no referential integrity unless you use the innoDB engine? Try convincing any DBA to do that.

PHP is a software engineering monstrosity that should've never come alive.

Tomcat for EJB-less middle-tier and JBoss for full Java EE are fine I give you that. Still it is the small companies that prefer these over commercial counterparts. Besides we're talking Apache web server and not Apache Tomcat.
 
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Originally Posted by fatalsaint View Post
Yup... Ok.
Unfortunately this is only a temporary advantage, and is soon about to change. When 3.6 will be released (in non-beta state) there will be a huge split in FF version usage just like IE has right now. IE8 will exceed 3.6, IE7 will exceed 3.5 and IE6 will exceed 3.0.

Of course, this is only bad news for fanboys as the total market share for IE will continue to shrink badly until at least the release of IE9.
 
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Originally Posted by OrangeBox View Post
Really? I thought that Apache was used mainly by the Mickey Mouse web site developers. Most companies use IIS because they already have the Windows infrastructure.
I just wanted to say... there is no way that you could have been serious about this. I'm a MCSE and I know that Apache kills IIS.

Now... earlier there was a statement that open source apps are stable, not as flashy.

The problem is... the average consumer wants flashy & limited use. Apps have been getting more and more specific, almost niche lately.

And when a lot of the "industry standards" are not open source, it's an uphill battle to sell that to the average consumer.

I would love to see more announcements that would wrangle in the average consumer so I'd know the OS would continue to get support. That concerns me... the open source crowd are rather nomadic. Pick up, go where they fit the best, and can pick up their "settlements" quickly and easily. That's not always a good thing for a new platform. Some established companies are what's needed.

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Firefox continuously grows in the market share. And as is explained in that article, it's doubly impressive because IE comes with the most popular OS.

Which means a vast majority of the FIrefox market is actually taking away FROM the IE market. Users have to manually install and use that browser - and it's always on the rise.
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Originally Posted by Dak View Post
Preemptive multitasking will never be adopted by serious Operating Systems, as queuing processes in a stack and allowing each one to finish in series is a vastly more optimal use of CPU bandwidth.
This remark is absurd. What is the alternative that you propose then?
 
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@OrangeBox

You are ADORABLE.
 
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Multi-tasking really doesn't matter when you don't have apps.
 
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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
I just wanted to say... there is no way that you could have been serious about this. I'm a MCSE and I know that Apache kills IIS.
I'm a MScIS (Master of Science in Information Systems), but that's besides the point. If you know how to rebalance a red-black tree then we can talk.

How can Apache kill IIS? In most professional correspondence I've done with clients Apache was ALWAYS a dumb front end to IIS or some other middle tier. Straight Apache only sites are good for nothing.

With Apache all you can do is PHP/CGI/Perl/maybe Python which all are Mickey Mouse technologies. With IIS, you can have .NET.
 
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Originally Posted by OrangeBox View Post
I'm a MScIS (Master of Science in Information Systems), but that's besides the point.
Actually, it's not besides the point. Stating that Apache is a minor player in the market shows that you have no idea what you're talking about whatsoever. In fact, that's something a rank amateur would state that only knows very little to be taken even a little bit serious.

You don't bring anything to the table other than hot air and no understanding of what's actually out there. Apache is almost a standard now in regards to Mac, Linux and Windows http daemons now. IIS is "decent", but it's still not as robust as most would require or need in true enterprise environments.

How can Apache kill IIS? In most professional correspondence I've done with clients Apache was ALWAYS a dumb front end to IIS or some other middle tier. Straight Apache only sites are good for nothing.
If you knew what you were talking about, I'd actually endeavor an answer.

Since you do not... I'd say learn more before addressing me.

With Apache all you can do is PHP/CGI/Perl/maybe Python which all are Mickey Mouse technologies. With IIS, you can have .NET.
I also code .NET (since 1.0), alongside PHP (since 2.0), ActionScript (since AS1 in Flash and Flex) and other technologies. None of those you nor I have mentioned are "Mickey Mouse" technologies. Enjoy your limited view of technology... I don't share it with you.

Back to the subject at hand and less about you - I don't like wasting my time with people too often; more companies is a good thing.
 
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