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Originally Posted by lanwellon
Your posted concerns seem better addressed by the Android platform. Currently, the 900 is very "Spartan", compared to Android, but yes, the 900 is more "PC-like".
I am using Ubuntu Linux as my PC OS now.
I think it will be great if Maemo can use the softwares in Ubuntu.
Such as GIMP, Amarok/Banshee, etc.
I know my PC is x86 platform and Nokia Internet Device is ARM platform. But as I know, Ubuntu also have ARM version.
So could GNOME project team transfer these fabulous softwares to Maemo ?
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There is Easy Debian.. which is a full Debian port that will run under a chroot on your Phone.
You can have a full LXDE desktop running atop Maemo that allows you switch back and forth (at least, with the N810 that was possible: There maybe have been issues with the N900 that I am not sure if the second x-window was fixed or not.. you'll have to go look through the Fremantle thread.)
So yes, things like GIMP and such will run in Easy Debian if not on the device itself.
That increases the number of available apps substantially. And the current operating theory is the Maemo 6 will be QT based and all QT libraries are being updated/maintained for Maemo 5.. so apps that run in Maemo 6 should run in Maemo 5 as well. So when the next device comes out, yes - theoretically the number of apps for the N900 will increase.
Also.. it was already confirmed somewhere that the M6 device will still be OMAP-3.. which I think has a 1ghz cap.. but exact speeds I don't think are known yet.
You can have a full LXDE desktop running atop Maemo that allows you switch back and forth (at least, with the N810 that was possible: There maybe have been issues with the N900 that I am not sure if the second x-window was fixed or not.. you'll have to go look through the Fremantle thread.)
So yes, things like GIMP and such will run in Easy Debian if not on the device itself.
That increases the number of available apps substantially. And the current operating theory is the Maemo 6 will be QT based and all QT libraries are being updated/maintained for Maemo 5.. so apps that run in Maemo 6 should run in Maemo 5 as well. So when the next device comes out, yes - theoretically the number of apps for the N900 will increase.
Also.. it was already confirmed somewhere that the M6 device will still be OMAP-3.. which I think has a 1ghz cap.. but exact speeds I don't think are known yet.
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And BTW, I think "apps" are very important.
And Maemo do not have enough apps or games now.
I think Android looks just like Microsoft Windows in Desktop market,
having a lot of softwares and large market share.
Maemo looks more like Ubuntu in Desktop market.
less softwares and popular for geeks.
Will this happen in the future ?
Last edited by lanwellon; 2010-02-12 at 16:15.
And Maemo do not have enough apps or games now.
I think Android looks just like Microsoft Windows in Desktop market,
having a lot of softwares and large market share.
Maemo looks more like Ubuntu in Desktop market.
less softwares and popular for geeks.
Will this happen in the future ?
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Originally Posted by fatalsaint
OK. I see. Qt library.
There is Easy Debian.. which is a full Debian port that will run under a chroot on your Phone.
You can have a full LXDE desktop running atop Maemo that allows you switch back and forth (at least, with the N810 that was possible: There maybe have been issues with the N900 that I am not sure if the second x-window was fixed or not.. you'll have to go look through the Fremantle thread.)
So yes, things like GIMP and such will run in Easy Debian if not on the device itself.
That increases the number of available apps substantially. And the current operating theory is the Maemo 6 will be QT based and all QT libraries are being updated/maintained for Maemo 5.. so apps that run in Maemo 6 should run in Maemo 5 as well. So when the next device comes out, yes - theoretically the number of apps for the N900 will increase.
Also.. it was already confirmed somewhere that the M6 device will still be OMAP-3.. which I think has a 1ghz cap.. but exact speeds I don't think are known yet.
So, you mean I can run Sun VirtualBox on Maemo then ?
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Originally Posted by lanwellon
I would make sure and do all the "research" you could possibly do to make sure this device fits your needs 100%. If you do not, then you risk getting flamed on these forums by expressing any concerns or issues you have after purchasing the device. If you do not believe me, click on about 1/5 of the threads in this forum..
I think I am a geek. lol.
Please give me some suggestions. Thanks.
Should I wait Nokia Maemo 6 cellphone which should be
released on the 2nd half of 2010 ?
Can N900 upgrade to Maemo 6 when it release ?
And I even think about to buy an HTC G3 (Hero),
It seems that Android phone has much more softwares than Maemo now.
Please help to advice. Thanks.
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2010-02-12
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Originally Posted by lanwellon
Well, things like that need to be recompiled from the i386 CPU architecture to ARM.
OK. I see. Qt library.
So, you mean I can run Sun VirtualBox on Maemo then ?
If you look at Virtualbox in the debian repos you'll see:
http://packages.debian.org/lenny/virtualbox-ose
Only x86 and x64 ports are available. So no.
Any debian package that shows "armel" on the bottom is installable on the N900.. whether it runs at all, runs properly, works in a 800x400 screen, runs fast enough to not make you feel 900 years old... etc... is all entirely software dependent.
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Originally Posted by fatalsaint
You mean Maemo 6 will be more iPhone-liked or Android-like, and cannot be custermized?
This.
If you want a "phone" in the sense of iPhone or Android... wait for M6 or go Android.
If you want a customizable true linux device that happens to make and receive phone calls... go the N900.
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Originally Posted by lanwellon
Depends what you mean by customized. Maemo 6 is definitely in the move in that direction.
You mean Maemo 6 will be more iPhone-liked or Android-like, and cannot be custermized?
Take a look here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_security
Essentially there's going to be a sort of "dual boot" scenario. On the one hand, you have a "closed" and locked down Maemo that allows information to be encrypted or stored that the user cannot access. This way opening the door for "pay" apps, DRM, hell - maybe even that "provisioning" that some people are screaming about.
And then there's an "open" mode that more resembles the Maemo of today..
I personally don't like this idea.. but it's at least the best compromise of any "normal" phone to date between people like me (I would likely *never* boot into "closed" mode.. I have had an android phone for 8 months and have not purchased a single app) and people that are iPhone fans - they want easily purchased high quality software.
At least: This is what I got by skimming it. I haven't read every slide or looked through all documents on the Maemo Summit thing.
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Originally Posted by lanwellon
Any particular need? What important app can be found from iphone store or android store that YOU would like to have on N900?
And BTW, I think "apps" are very important. And Maemo do not have enough apps or games now.?
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I think it will be great if Maemo can use the softwares in Ubuntu.
Such as GIMP, Amarok/Banshee, etc.
I know my PC is x86 platform and Nokia Internet Device is ARM platform. But as I know, Ubuntu also have ARM version.
So could GNOME project team transfer these fabulous softwares to Maemo ?