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Originally Posted by RobbieThe1st
Or: http://www.vmware.com/products/player/ (yes, it's freeware)
http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
Or burn ubuntu live-cd...
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Originally Posted by RobbieThe1st
I'll try at work. Right now I'm at home, unable to restore.
http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
Wait, it booted. So, latest version that actually restores for me is from 22nd, when I posted that it restored successfully.
Also, the image sizes are suspicious to say the least. Here we go:
Code:
[14:23:09.53] [Ndi] L:\>dir /o:d /a:-d
Volume in drive L is SD16G
Volume Serial Number is FC30-3DA9
Directory of L:\
22.Oct.2010 21:33 263,454,720 20101023-backup-rootfs.img
22.Oct.2010 22:07 2,147,483,648 20101023-backup-optfs.img
25.Oct.2010 17:10 260,833,280 Pre13r.tar
25.Oct.2010 17:13 758,845,440 Pre13o.tar
25.Oct.2010 22:06 269,271,040 20101025-backup-rootfs.tar
26.Oct.2010 11:55 92,682,240 20101026-backup-optfs.tar
26.Oct.2010 12:15 0 20101026-backup-rootfs.tar
27.Oct.2010 09:00 1,933,312 20101027-backup-rootfs.tar
27.Oct.2010 09:03 936,417,280 20101027-backup-optfs.tar
9 File(s) 4,730,920,960 bytes
0 Dir(s) 6,817,939,456 bytes free
[14:23:22.75] [Ndi] L:\>
Now, on the 26th, you released version 20101026, and the images are 0 MB for root (dead) and 92M for opt, where it's clear that opt should be around (over) 750. Upgrading to 1.3 has no excuse to vary my backup that much.
On 27th, 26-2. Rootfs backup is 2M (!) and opt is 900M. After and unpack and diff, it seems the 200M was the result of my installing gnumeric, angrybirds and a few others, so it seem opt is fine, should be 900M. The diff shows that optfs only gained. Deleted files from Pre13o to the 900M image are a few cache files and some files I deleted myself.
20101027-backup-rootfs.tar contains
/etc
/dev
/bin (partial)
and an unexpected end of archive error.
20101027-backup-optfs.tar contains what is probably expeced of it.
20101026-backup-rootfs.tar contains nothing, obviously.
20101026-backup-optfs.tar contains /user and an unexpected end of archive
20101025-backup-rootfs.tar is valid, as we know, and could be restored.
So, basically, it's broken. Moreover, there is no indication of the backup failing, so a restore renders the device unbootable. Not unbootable like the boot menu works, but unbootable like the logo comes up but not the backlight, then power down. Needs reflash.
And to add insult to injury, my backup is 1.2. I have to do OTA every time to 1.3, then restore power kernel and then reinstall apps that were broken by OTA.
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Suggestion box: Could you ask the user for a backup name? It's a lot useful than date, mainly because if I have a pre and a post install backup I can only guess. Sure I can rename manually, but if it breaks I'm lost. You could append date after the name, if needed. Is it too complicated to read from console?
Also suggestion box: Could you remember the result from the rootfs backup and display it at the end, with opt? Every time I initiate root+opt backup I leave the phone and after 15 minutes when I look at the screen I see "Rootfs backup complete" and it waits for me to press a key.
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2010-10-27
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Yes, the 10201026 was broken - I already agreed to that and fixed it.
20101026-2... I dunno. I just did a test with my PR1.2, and it seems to be working alright... It gets to ~296mb, then finishes, so I assume it worked OK. I'd check to make doubly sure you have the latest.
Suggestion 1: I'll see. I did it this way because I didn't really have a way of getting an input name. I'll have to write a new module to do that... Possible, but'll take a bit
Suggestion 2: Yea, I'll have to do some extra coding though...
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20101026-2... I dunno. I just did a test with my PR1.2, and it seems to be working alright... It gets to ~296mb, then finishes, so I assume it worked OK. I'd check to make doubly sure you have the latest.
Suggestion 1: I'll see. I did it this way because I didn't really have a way of getting an input name. I'll have to write a new module to do that... Possible, but'll take a bit
Suggestion 2: Yea, I'll have to do some extra coding though...
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2010-10-27
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Originally Posted by RobbieThe1st
Maybe 1.3 broke it. I now reverted back to 22 and restored back to 1.2 via restore. Now updating to 1.3. Once it's done, I'll try to make a backup again and a restore, see if 22 works under 1.3 - that should clear up some things for both of us.
20101026-2... I dunno. I just did a test with my PR1.2, and it seems to be working alright... It gets to ~296mb, then finishes, so I assume it worked OK. I'd check to make doubly sure you have the latest.
I'm glad you think the suggestions are good. Oh, and, note to self and a caveat for everyone else:
Do not restore rootfs only if you upgraded to 1.3.
I assumed it would work since it's only the OS that's being updated, however, doing that broke several things. Among others, some paths have changed, some apps and widgets are missing images. Furthermore, some apps are broken, assumingly they moved paths and some libraries use different paths.
What's worse, HAM thinks you have 1.3 (doesn't offer to upgrade), but version says 10. (PR 1.2). It's in limbo and apt-get install --reinstall mp-fremantle-generic-pr doesn't fix it. It fixes the version, but not the applications.
Reinstalling applications also won't work, 1.3 has a different repository.
They also moved some files around.
So, no. If you don't have a root+opt backup, don't do it.
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I just backed my stuff up, and am upgrading to PR1.3 right now.
BTW, I found out that erasing all files from the Optfs(via a special feature of BackupMenu), then flashing PR1.3 does work, and makes a bootable system - Flashing the eMMC, therefor, should not be needed.
BTW, I found out that erasing all files from the Optfs(via a special feature of BackupMenu), then flashing PR1.3 does work, and makes a bootable system - Flashing the eMMC, therefor, should not be needed.
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2010-10-28
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Update, version 22 does indeed back up and restore PR 1.3, if reinstalled after OTA.
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Originally Posted by ndi
Help me understand what you just said please -
Update, version 22 does indeed back up and restore PR 1.3, if reinstalled after OTA.
you reinstalled BUM after upgrading to PR 1.3 by means of OTA
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you upgraded to PR 1.3 OTA but then reinstalled PR 1.3 ?
Just trying to be clear on what you meant,
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Installed 22
Backed up in PR 1.2
Killed the device
Restored to 1.2 >> success
Installed 22
Backed up in 1.2
Upgraded to 1.3
Restored to 1.2 >> success (see above warning in bold)
Installed 22
Upgraded to PR1.3
Installed 22 again (*)
Backed up 1.3 using 20101022
Killed the device again
Restored to 1.3.
That means, basically, that version 22 is solid whatever way you go, provided that you (*)reinstall it after OTA. I can't swear it won't work after OTA, but I did reinstall it to be on the safe side, so all my tests are with a reinstall after OTA.
(*)By reinstall I mean followed the instructions in first post. Since I already had backup menu and a working OS, I just went to the tar command to overwrite the files (and the the rest of the commands).
By now I have a BM.sh that does it, in /media/mmc1/Ndi/MB.sh. Along with other scripts I'm tired of running, along with a backup of repository definitions and a few other files. I just wished the flasher image came with rootsh installed. When recovering from a failed restore, I flash, followed by rootsh, followed by an "sh /media/mmc1/Ndi/BM.sh" and a restore.
I'm down to 2 minutes.
Backed up in PR 1.2
Killed the device
Restored to 1.2 >> success
Installed 22
Backed up in 1.2
Upgraded to 1.3
Restored to 1.2 >> success (see above warning in bold)
Installed 22
Upgraded to PR1.3
Installed 22 again (*)
Backed up 1.3 using 20101022
Killed the device again
Restored to 1.3.
That means, basically, that version 22 is solid whatever way you go, provided that you (*)reinstall it after OTA. I can't swear it won't work after OTA, but I did reinstall it to be on the safe side, so all my tests are with a reinstall after OTA.
(*)By reinstall I mean followed the instructions in first post. Since I already had backup menu and a working OS, I just went to the tar command to overwrite the files (and the the rest of the commands).
By now I have a BM.sh that does it, in /media/mmc1/Ndi/MB.sh. Along with other scripts I'm tired of running, along with a backup of repository definitions and a few other files. I just wished the flasher image came with rootsh installed. When recovering from a failed restore, I flash, followed by rootsh, followed by an "sh /media/mmc1/Ndi/BM.sh" and a restore.
I'm down to 2 minutes.
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Lets see. I:
1. Backed up my system with V0.48.
2. Added a "special feature" that lets me delete the contents of the Optfs.
3. stuck that version on my N900
4. Booted into BackupMenu, erased the Optfs
5. Rebooted and flashed PR1.3(no eMMC flash)
6. Let it boot(It booted fine, worked great).
7. Opened the app manager, started restoring apps.
8. After apps were restored, used tar to extract my ApMeFo configuration from my PR1.2 backup and install it
9. Installed BackupMenu V0.48.
10. Rebooted, did a backup. The resulting files are within reason, so I assume it worked fine.
11. Copied the backup to my desktop incase something goes wrong.
12. Changed a few things, like the startup video.
13. Restored to my backup. Worked perfectly - Video was the default.
ndi, the latest worked fine on mine. Personally, I'm not sure how there could be a difference between the older one and the current, as the backup code is identical. :\
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1. Backed up my system with V0.48.
2. Added a "special feature" that lets me delete the contents of the Optfs.
3. stuck that version on my N900
4. Booted into BackupMenu, erased the Optfs
5. Rebooted and flashed PR1.3(no eMMC flash)
6. Let it boot(It booted fine, worked great).
7. Opened the app manager, started restoring apps.
8. After apps were restored, used tar to extract my ApMeFo configuration from my PR1.2 backup and install it
9. Installed BackupMenu V0.48.
10. Rebooted, did a backup. The resulting files are within reason, so I assume it worked fine.
11. Copied the backup to my desktop incase something goes wrong.
12. Changed a few things, like the startup video.
13. Restored to my backup. Worked perfectly - Video was the default.
ndi, the latest worked fine on mine. Personally, I'm not sure how there could be a difference between the older one and the current, as the backup code is identical. :\
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Edit: Yea, there -may- be problems with my software. That's what you guys are here for - This is -alpha- software, You guys are getting it after I've tested it somewhat, but I'm one person and not perfect.
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