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2013-01-14
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#12
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just a side note:
On any Debian based system (including Ubuntu, Maemo, yadda yadda...), always use dist-upgrade instead of upgrade!
In most cases both will do the same but there are some situations where upgrade might break things, especially if you run a release mix (e.g. extras + extras-testing; but frankly virtually any two Maemo repositories combined should be considered a release mix).
In a dependency hell environment like Maemo dist-upgrade might break things too, but if it does upgrade would have broken it anyway (if it wouldn't have, dependency hell had just become yet a bit hotter).
On any Debian based system (including Ubuntu, Maemo, yadda yadda...), always use dist-upgrade instead of upgrade!
In most cases both will do the same but there are some situations where upgrade might break things, especially if you run a release mix (e.g. extras + extras-testing; but frankly virtually any two Maemo repositories combined should be considered a release mix).
In a dependency hell environment like Maemo dist-upgrade might break things too, but if it does upgrade would have broken it anyway (if it wouldn't have, dependency hell had just become yet a bit hotter).
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2013-01-14
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#13
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Never, but never use dist-upgrade in maemo 5!
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2013-01-14
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#14
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Originally Posted by mr_pingu
I've used dist-upgrade for two years without any mayor* problems. On the other hand I believe I know what I'm doing (I've been using Debian for years) and therefore understand what apt want's to tell me.
Never, but never use dist-upgrade in maemo 5!
The main difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade is that upgrade only updates installed packages to their newest version while dist-upgrade checks whether updated packages have changes in their dependency lists and installs these new dependencies.
If your red warning is true it's even more true for update. dist-upgrade breaking something that upgrade would not have broken is always a clear sign of severe dependency problems in your system and/or repositories that need to be fixed instead of falling back to upgrade and crossing your fingers (which might work for now but will cause further problems in the future).
*) read: I've had broken dependencies but I knew that in advance and I at least had a general idea of how to fix them.
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2013-01-14
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Thing is, since apt-get isn't meant to be used directly in maemo, and since dependencies and upgrades aren't treated the same way in maemo as in debian, using apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade tries to pretend maemo is debian, which it isn't, and might pull in incompatible packages which otherwise wouldn't get installed when using HAM.
Additionally, there are extra directives that apt-get doesn't understand, but HAM does. Especially when dealing with kernels
Additionally, there are extra directives that apt-get doesn't understand, but HAM does. Especially when dealing with kernels
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2013-01-14
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In what way is Maemo's package management not Debian and in what way is HAM not just another apt front-end like Synaptic on desktops?
Which directives does HAM use that apt (or dpkg) doesn't understand?
As I said, I'm a Debian user and I've treated Maemo like Debian for the past two years when it comes to package management. I've used HAM once in a while but mainly I've been using apt and I had no unresolvable problems (most weren't even unexpected once I knew in which shape Maemo's repositories are).
Maybe I've been missing something for the past two years which may well be the case since I never brought myself in a position that I couldn't handle (resolve or revert).
Which directives does HAM use that apt (or dpkg) doesn't understand?
As I said, I'm a Debian user and I've treated Maemo like Debian for the past two years when it comes to package management. I've used HAM once in a while but mainly I've been using apt and I had no unresolvable problems (most weren't even unexpected once I knew in which shape Maemo's repositories are).
Maybe I've been missing something for the past two years which may well be the case since I never brought myself in a position that I couldn't handle (resolve or revert).
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2013-01-14
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At first thx guys 4 ur replies
Originally Posted by reinob
it shows this:
As root, type "echo $PATH", and post here the exact output.
Code:
~ # echo $PATH /usr/bin:/bin ~ #
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2013-01-14
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Originally Posted by michaaa62
here's an output of apt-get install --reinstall -dy libc6:
to extract the libc6 package withto fix this issue, but...Code:sudo gainroot apt-get install --reinstall -dy libc6 dpkg -x /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6*.deb
Code:
WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! libc6 E: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes /home/user #
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2013-01-14
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hi all,
sorry to interrupt,but i also have a problem in X-terminal.Please help.its not going to able me install/uninstall anything...
Thank u very much in advance.
heres the output of some commands:
after apt-get upgrade
and after apt-get update
sorry to interrupt,but i also have a problem in X-terminal.Please help.its not going to able me install/uninstall anything...
Thank u very much in advance.
heres the output of some commands:
after apt-get upgrade
Code:
BusyBox v1.20.2 (Debian 1.20.2power5+thumb0) built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
~ $ root
BusyBox v1.20.2 (Debian 1.20.2power5+thumb0) built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
Nokia-N900:~# apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
qtwrt-experimental: Depends: wrt-experimental (= 1.1tp-3) but it is not installed
Depends: wrt-api-experimental (= 1.1tp-3) but it is not installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
Nokia-N900:~#
Code:
Ign https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages Hit https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages Hit https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages Hit https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages Err http://repository.maemo.org fremantle Release.gpg Could not connect to repository.maemo.org:80 (188.117.59.203), connection timed out Err http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/free Translation-en_GB Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: Err http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/non-free Translation-en_GB Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: Get:7 http://maemo.merlin1991.at fremantle Release.gpg [490B] Ign http://maemo.merlin1991.at fremantle/free Translation-en_GB Ign http://maemo.merlin1991.at fremantle/non-free Translation-en_GB Err http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3 Release.gpg Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: Err http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/free Translation-en_GB Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: Err http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/non-free Translation-en_GB Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: Err http://repository.maemo.org fremantle Release.gpg Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: Err http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/free Translation-en_GB Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: Err http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/non-free Translation-en_GB Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: Err http://repository.maemo.org fremantle Release.gpg Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: Err http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/free Translation-en_GB Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: Err http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/non-free Translation-en_GB Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: Get:8 http://marmistrz.net63.net fremantle Release.gpg [490B] Ign http://marmistrz.net63.net fremantle/stable Translation-en_GB Ign http://marmistrz.net63.net fremantle/testing Translation-en_GB Ign http://marmistrz.net63.net fremantle/unstable Translation-en_GB Hit http://maemo.merlin1991.at fremantle Release Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3 Release Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle Release Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle Release Hit http://marmistrz.net63.net fremantle Release Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/free Packages/DiffIndex Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/non-free Packages/DiffIndex Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/free Packages/DiffIndex Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/non-free Packages/DiffIndex Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/free Packages/DiffIndex Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/non-free Packages/DiffIndex Ign http://maemo.merlin1991.at fremantle/free Packages/DiffIndex Ign http://maemo.merlin1991.at fremantle/non-free Packages/DiffIndex Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/free Packages Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/non-free Packages Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/free Packages Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/non-free Packages Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/free Packages Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/non-free Packages Ign http://marmistrz.net63.net fremantle/stable Packages/DiffIndex Ign http://marmistrz.net63.net fremantle/testing Packages/DiffIndex Ign http://marmistrz.net63.net fremantle/unstable Packages/DiffIndex Ign http://maemo.merlin1991.at fremantle/free Packages Ign http://maemo.merlin1991.at fremantle/non-free Packages Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/free Packages Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/non-free Packages Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/free Packages Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/non-free Packages Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/free Packages Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/non-free Packages Hit http://marmistrz.net63.net fremantle/stable Packages Hit http://marmistrz.net63.net fremantle/testing Packages Hit http://marmistrz.net63.net fremantle/unstable Packages Hit http://maemo.merlin1991.at fremantle/free Packages Hit http://maemo.merlin1991.at fremantle/non-free Packages Err http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/free Packages Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: Err http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/non-free Packages Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: Err http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/free Packages Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: Err http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/non-free Packages Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: Err http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/free Packages Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: Err http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/non-free Packages Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: Fetched 3095B in 2min11s (23B/s) Reading package lists... Done W: GPG error: https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 W: GPG error: https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 W: GPG error: https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 W: Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/dists/fremantle/Release.gpg Could not connect to repository.maemo.org:80 (188.117.59.203), connection timed out W: Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/dists/fremantle/free/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2 Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: W: Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/dists/fremantle/non-free/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2 Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: W: Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/extras/dists/fremantle-1.3/Release.gpg Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: W: Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/extras/dists/fremantle-1.3/free/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2 Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: W: Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/extras/dists/fremantle-1.3/non-free/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2 Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: W: Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/dists/fremantle/Release.gpg Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: W: Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/dists/fremantle/free/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2 Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: W: Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/dists/fremantle/non-free/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2 Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: W: Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/extras-testing/dists/fremantle/Release.gpg Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: W: Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/extras-testing/dists/fremantle/free/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2 Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: W: Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/extras-testing/dists/fremantle/non-free/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2 Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: W: Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/extras/dists/fremantle-1.3/free/binary-armel/Packages Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: W: Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/extras/dists/fremantle-1.3/non-free/binary-armel/Packages Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: W: Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/dists/fremantle/free/binary-armel/Packages Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: W: Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/dists/fremantle/non-free/binary-armel/Packages Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: W: Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/extras-testing/dists/fremantle/free/binary-armel/Packages Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: W: Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/extras-testing/dists/fremantle/non-free/binary-armel/Packages Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: W: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems Nokia-N900:~#
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2013-01-14
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#20
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@unexpected : Here you are http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...55&postcount=4
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