I don't think it's about age. Professional laptops (i.e. Lenovo Thinkpad) still have it and it rocks.

Back to the topic, as I mentioned in another thread, I think there will be problem with the camera - how are you gonna have the keyboard on and shoot pictures at the same time?

The 'chocolate square' pyramidal shape is important. Also, note no 'bezel'.

Its a extra "cursor navigator" forgot whats its called but...

http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops...ir=y#techspecs

clit mouse

- ..is the term whose German equivalent we use in German. :-D

- The qwerty should be the same build quality as N900, but more spacious, with 4 or 5 rows at least, and 4 cursor keys for *all* the languages.
- I don't think it's necessary to have the keybaord open while using the camera app. Do you know of any scenario using the cam on N900 where you need that?
- How many different localizations of the hw qwerty would be needed only in Europe? Are there any 2 European languages that have the same kb layout?
I wonder if that could be one huge barrier for Jolla, that may make them rethink twice doing their own qwerty half, because I imagine the many localizations would be a bigger cost factor in production and maybe also require a larger effort to integrate software-wise than having just a (crappy f***in'-stupid old) vkb.
Does anyone happen to know more about this?
- Be that as it may, Jolla are big giant a***oles if they don't make a proper qwerty and I'll never forgive them if they don't. Every single fan page out there is stuffed with requests and questions about hardware qwerty! I'm sure like 80% of people who already know about Jolla and are interested want a qwerty, and they just go like "yeah, whatevs". Company that listens my a*s.

that would make for too long a keydrop IMO and slow you down.

And it is much better than a touchpad, much better.

I had this device and I still have two of them in my possession.

I don't think you understand what I'm saying. I'm not talking about using the keyboard, just about having the keyboard other half on. While on N900, you have the camera on the back side of the keyboard, on Jolla it is (if such thing as keyboard exists) in between the keyboard and the screen.

To be more illustrative:
grab your N900 in portrait mode and imagine the screen is Jolla and the keyboard (the actual device) is the other half and you have the camera placed on the front part. With keyboard closed, there's no way you could take pictures.
Now open the keyboard - you would be able to take pictures if the camera was on the right side, but guess what... Jolla has it on the left.

maybe a hole for camera "anything you can imagine"