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2016-01-26
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Originally Posted by gerbick
I do not mind admitting that I could be wrong; however it offers you two options. Dismiss or Set Reminder. There is the "Find Flights and More" option but even turning this one setting off, Cortana service(s) are still aware of those events; just search for that day of your plans and it will pop up still despite you turning that option off.
Feel free to prove otherwise.
Edit: Adding some clarification of what we had tested. Feel free to add your notes.
Internally, we had somebody do the following. Then forwarded an email to themselves with their pending flight (future plans)... and it was on their calendar. Thinking back, we will have to test the possibility that he did have his calendar synchronized as a possible way this could have appeared. However, on my own personal device and testing device - which is not synchronized with my calendars, if I search for the date for my upcoming travel plans, it shows up. I just have to search for that day.
Originally Posted by Microsoft
This is detailed under 'Can I control what data Cortana collects' on http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/w...na-privacy-faq
Turning off tracking for a particular event will stop Cortana from notifying you proactively, but Cortana will keep access to information from your communications. To completely turn off Cortana’s capability to track flights, packages and other information from your messages, go to Cortana > Notebook > Settings, then, under Find flights and more, turn the Detect tracking info, such as flights, in messages on my device setting Off.
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2016-01-26
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#123
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Yes. I know where it came from... even stated that it was quoted from Microsoft.
I do think that I'm still asking a question that's yet to be answered. Even turning that off, the dates/travel still shows in the calendar. The problem is deeper than just Cortana.
So far, you've yet to share a method to avoid it - and I'm slowly proving that turning it off doesn't really help the user.
I do think that I'm still asking a question that's yet to be answered. Even turning that off, the dates/travel still shows in the calendar. The problem is deeper than just Cortana.
So far, you've yet to share a method to avoid it - and I'm slowly proving that turning it off doesn't really help the user.
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2016-01-26
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#124
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Sorry, hadn't seen your edit when I posted my reply.
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2016-01-26
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#125
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Originally Posted by strongm
Yep. Take notice of this statement from Microsoft:
Sorry, hadn't seen your edit when I posted my reply.
Originally Posted by Microsoft
That part states that Cortana will still have access, thus Microsoft will have access, to any/all information and you're simply dismissing the notifications and not disabling/stopping the collection of that information.Cortana will keep access to information from your communications
That's my original point wherein there's no way to turn that "feature" off and in latter versions of Windows, that service collects even more information and now extends into your calendar (current) and reminders (current/future) and to your mobile and contacts (future). That data will remain to be collected.
That will fuel a lot of paranoia unfortunately.
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2016-01-27
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#126
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Originally Posted by Copernicus
Isn't that the same thing as Apple does with dates in e-mails, or tomorrow evening and makers it clickable to make an event in Calendar?
Dunno if this one has been posted already, but a new Windows 10 feature to me: the Cortana AI Assistant will now (by default) scan through your e-mail messages in order to remind you of any commitments you have. Wow, I certainly feel more secure now that Microsoft can read all my mail...
http://www.computerworld.com/article...re-itbwcw.html
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Originally Posted by gerbick
Not quite sure that - in context - that's quite how I read it, but I can see how it might be seen that way. Need to find something definitive, I guess.
That part states that Cortana will still have access, thus Microsoft will have access, to any/all information and you're simply dismissing the notifications and not disabling/stopping the collection of that information.
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Originally Posted by mr_pingu
Hmm, dunno; I've never used Apple e-mail, but instead Thunderbird. But, two things:
Isn't that the same thing as Apple does with dates in e-mails, or tomorrow evening and makers it clickable to make an event in Calendar?
1) Cortana is not an e-mail program; thus, I suspect it would try to search your mail regardless of what e-mail client you use.
2) Cortana is one of the new breed of "AI" programs that operates off of a centralized server rather than on your local computer. Therefore, any and all of the data it collects can and will be sent to Microsoft for processing. (Apple may do this with Siri as well, but I don't have an Apple phone to check, and Siri hasn't yet been pushed to OS X.)
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2016-01-27
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Originally Posted by Copernicus
Currently, according to Microsoft documentation, it only works with the Modern mail app that ships with the OS. Having said that, I can only assume that a future goal is that it'll work with alternative email clients.
1) Cortana is not an e-mail program; thus, I suspect it would try to search your mail regardless of what e-mail client you use.
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2016-01-27
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Originally Posted by mr_pingu
I do not use Apple and do not know what they do with emails but if I understand the above correctly, that is not the same thing at all. The above sounds similar to what many email clients have been doing for years - search for certain patterns in the email text and if they find something that looks like a URL, highlight it and make it clickable. Many phones do the same thing in SMS - highlight things that look like URLs or phone numbers.
Isn't that the same thing as Apple does with dates in e-mails, or tomorrow evening and makers it clickable to make an event in Calendar?
There are two major differences between that and what Cortana does:
1) User interaction is required. You need to click on the highlighted bit. Cortana does the job for you.
2) Both the search and your response remain local to the device, unless you choose otherwise (e.g. by syncing your calendar). Cortana does it through a Microsoft server somewhere.
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Edit: Adding some clarification of what we had tested. Feel free to add your notes.
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