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#152
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Originally Posted by qwazix
Yeah, that's essentially how its done. Kinda painful, but it works.
Why not add two sets of buttons and show/hide them upon rotation?
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How about the light sensor thing i suggested before 
that automation option is highly appreciated
that automation option is highly appreciated
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#154
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Originally Posted by Copernicus
That's why I was amused by my own idea, and called it nonsense feature
Ah, well, that's kind of a conundrum; if you want to control the LEDs while the cover is closed, then really, the app should remain running while the cover is closed, right? I'm really not sure exactly how to both ignore the cover state and use the cover state at the same time. I could, for example, use the rule "If I'm ignoring the cover, but at some point the state goes from open to closed, I'll quit the app", it might work for your
My use case was that, before discovering how "exit on shutter close" works, I used to open my cover (I have vertical camera cover, as opposed to horizontal vanilla one), to reveal LEDS only, without triggering camera or camera launch (which, with it's 6MB real RAM usage on idle, is unacceptable).Of course it's all "void and null" for latest releases, so feel free to scratch it. Only one thing I would suggest doing, would be to "gray out" checkbox "close on camera cover", when "ignore camera cover state" is checked, to avoid confusion.
Originally Posted by pichlo
But user *must* be able to set ms values by hand, as duty cycle % in itself is meaningless and useless! Without possibility to set ms value, we would need to hardcode it - how long should it be, 1000 ms, 100 ms, or 2000 ms?
I was envisaging a single slider like the volume control in status menu with % value next to it (or even across it) and Xms on - Yms off under it as calculated values.
Not only would it look cool but it would also allow for dynamic limiting of the duty cycle and/or longest on timer depending on the brightness (which I incidentally also envision as a slider).
But I will let Copernicus decide that
In duty cycle case, % of duty cycle is *calculation result* of ON ms : total ms ratio. So, natural thing is to have 2x input field for ms, and x% as calculated, non-imputable result.
If we decide to make % as imputable field, we, in fact, still allow at least one ms value input, just disguised as %, forcing user to pre-calculate real ms in mind (or calculator) to get any meaningful results.
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Originally Posted by Estel
Err, sorry, I wasn't very clear was I? I meant keep the period input as text but have the duty cycle controlled by a slider.
But user *must* be able to set ms values by hand, as duty cycle % in itself is meaningless and useless
But - I am easy either way. It is Copernicus' masterpiece, not mine!
However I do think that if there are any hard limits then the UI should let you know somehow. A slider is an obvious indication that you are at the end. Text inputs can be limited by a number of digits but then you get to a situation like you experienced a few posts back when the input only took 999 even though the actual limit was 4999 because it refused the fourth 9.
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Originally Posted by pichlo
Ah, I see. allowing *either* to write both ms values, or to write only total duty cycle ms, and control ON ms by moving duty cycle slider (having on ms value re-calculated automatically). that sounds ok, and would be, surely, sweet spot - although, I'm not sure how easy/hard to code it is.
Err, sorry, I wasn't very clear was I? I meant keep the period input as text but have the duty cycle controlled by a slider.
I'm also + for showing hard limits in UI, AFAIK Copernicus is working on it, already.
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Originally Posted by nokiabot
I suppose I could put something in, but would it really be useful? A light fixture with a light sensor works mainly because the light fixture is in a permanent location; you can be fairly certain that the light sensor is reacting to the light level in the room around you. But a cell phone is made to travel with you; this option would cause the LED to turn on every time you put it in your pocket...
How about the light sensor thing i suggested before
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Originally Posted by Estel
Ah, thanks! Yeah, I should have done that; I'll get it into the next update.
Only one thing I would suggest doing, would be to "gray out" checkbox "close on camera cover", when "ignore camera cover state" is checked, to avoid confusion.
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Originally Posted by Copernicus
I think he rather meant using this sensor to automatically disable torch, when sensor detects high ambient light, then, re-enabling it again, when in dark (only when torch is activated by user, not as general trigger).
I suppose I could put something in, but would it really be useful? A light fixture with a light sensor works mainly because the light fixture is in a permanent location; you can be fairly certain that the light sensor is reacting to the light level in the room around you. But a cell phone is made to travel with you; this option would cause the LED to turn on every time you put it in your pocket...
While I can imagine some use-cases for it, I don't think it's worth the effort, still, even if it would be purely optional. Not to mention countless of situations, where user would forget to disable it (due to it going into OFF in lhigh ambient light), and indeed, torch would come back to life in pocket :P
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Originally Posted by Estel
crazy estel
I think he rather meant using this sensor to automatically disable torch, when sensor detects high ambient light, then, re-enabling it again, when in dark (only when torch is activated by user, not as general trigger).
While I can imagine some use-cases for it, I don't think it's worth the effort, still, even if it would be purely optional. Not to mention countless of situations, where user would forget to disable it (due to it going into OFF in lhigh ambient light), and indeed, torch would come back to life in pocket :P
/Estel
@coppy i have a solid use case for it i simply want to keep the n900 in a table with kickstand open with the optional feature enabled so as soon as there is power cut and the room turns dark the light sensor senses it and turns on the ledsfeatures i would like:
ability to disable the feature if in case i forgot to turn it off . i.e configurable idle time out.
Ability to set custom brightness
ability to select either the torch mode or red led or weather screen turns on or all light up
ability to set sound or beeps after intervel of n minutes so that i am notified its on
as i dont care about the microphone i can leave it running whole night so what about a optional feature about shouting at the n900 to turn it off or enable the leds or worst dial a number
@estel and everyone if you found any usecase by now just reply with more mature feature requests please
nb : all feature requests are just subjects to luxury
@ op thanx for responding
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